Mr. Belin.

And what did you say to him?

Mr. Truly.

I said "This way."

Mr. Belin.

Now, I wonder if you would take this pen and show the route that you took with the policeman, or take your own pen, if you would, sir---starting from point "T" on Exhibit 362.

Mr. Truly.

I ran in front of him.

Mr. Belin.

You better mark on the exhibit, sir.

Mr. Truly.

Took this route. There is a swinging door and a counter, what we call our will call counter right here.

Mr. Belin.

Is it here, or here?

Mr. Truly.

No, wait a minute.
There right here. We came in this way.

Mr. Belin.

Do you still want to put point "T" up here?

Mr. Truly.

No. This was on the steps, wasn't it? This is where I am sure he asked me.

Mr. Belin.

You better cross out the other one, then.

Mr. Truly.

I saw this thing here, and I thought it was that little swinging door.

Mr. Belin.

That would be the main door? Now, you have point "T."

Now, will you trace the route from point "T"?

Mr. Truly.

We came through this door here. The policeman right behind me.

Mr. Belin.

All right.

Mr. Truly.

This is a counter and this is a counter built in that cut inside this is where our customers come that pick up books.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
When you are pointing to the counter on Exhibit 362, you are pointing to a rectangle that appears to be located immediately to the west of the glass--looks like a glass partition to your office, is that correct?

Mr. Truly.

That is right.

Mr. Belin.

You call that the will call counter?

Mr. Truly.

That is right.

Mr. Belin.

What happened when you got there?

Mr. Truly.

There is a little swinging door that swings in and out that we have there. We never keep it locked. But on the bottom is a little bolt that you can lock it to keep people from pulling it out or pushing it in. And this bolt had slid out. It has done that on occasions. I started to run through this little opening, and I ran into the door, and the bolt hung against the side of the counter, and the policeman ran into my back. And so I just pulled it
back and continued on through.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
Now, the door didn't swing through. The bolt stuck. So you were stuck by the door. The policeman ran into you. And then you had to stop and pull the door back and go through it.

Mr. Truly.

That is right.

Mr. Belin.

Then where did you go? You might continue with your pen on Exhibit 362, showing the route.
All right.
Now, you have cut sort of diagonally across towards the rear, and you have come to the west elevator in the rear.

Mr. Truly.

That is right.

Mr. Belin.

Let me ask you this, Mr. Truly. I note on Exhibit 362 right where you came in there appears to be some stairs there. Why didn't you go up those stairs, instead of running to the back?

Mr. Truly.

Those stairs only reached to the second floor, and they wouldn't have any way of getting up to the top without going to the back stairway.

Mr. Belin.

All right.

Mr. Truly.

So this is the logical stairway that goes all the way to the seventh floor.

Mr. Belin.

And you are pointing to the stairway in what would be the northwest corner?

Mr. Truly.

That is right.