Mr. Williams.

I don't remember exactly, but I think I put some of them back in the sack. Just as I was ready to go I threw the sack down.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do with the sack?

Mr. Williams.

I think I just dropped it there.

Mr. Ball.

Anywhere near the two-wheeler?

Mr. Williams.

I think it was.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do with the Dr. Pepper bottle?

Mr. Williams.

Just set it down on the floor.

Mr. Ball.

There is a pop bottle that you see in the picture, 484-does that look like anything like the pop bottle that you were drinking from that day?

Mr. Williams.

I believe that was the bottle--I believe. I am not sure. But it looks like it.

Mr. Ball.

Did you leave the bottle somewhere near the point shown of the bottle shown on 484?

Mr. Williams.

I am really not sure about it. I don't think I left it there. I am not sure. I think I left it sitting up on top of the boxes, right to the side of the two-wheeler. As I remember-I am not sure about it. It is possible that I could have put it there.

Mr. Ball.

Your memory is that the Dr. Pepper bottle was left on top of the boxes?

Mr. Williams.

Beg pardon?

Mr. Ball.

Your memory is that you left the Dr. Pepper bottle on top of some of the cartons?

Mr. Williams.

As I remember. I am not sure.

Mr. Ball.

It is shown there on the floor.

Mr. Williams.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you go when you left there?

Mr. Williams.

I went down to the fifth floor.

Mr. Ball.

How did you get down there?

Mr. Williams.

I took an elevator down.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't go down the stairs?

Mr. Williams.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Which elevator did you take?

Mr. Williams.

I took the east elevator down.

Mr. Ball.

Is that the one that is worked with a hand--

Mr. Williams.

Yes, sir. That is the one with the one gate, and works with the hand pedal.

Mr. Ball.

How does the other one work?

Mr. Williams.

The other one worked by push button. You have two gates to pull. That is the one you can pull two gates on and it will come back up by itself. The east side elevator won't come up unless someone is operating.

Mr. Ball.

You took the elevator from the sixth floor to the fifth floor?

Mr. Williams.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you intend to go when you left the sixth floor?

Mr. Williams.

I intended to stop on the fifth floor, and if there wasn't anyone there, I intended to get out of the building, go outside.

Mr. Ball.

Well, you stopped on the fifth floor. Why?

Mr. Williams.

Beg pardon?

Mr. Ball.

Why did you stop on the fifth floor?

Mr. Williams.

To see if there was anyone there.

Mr. Ball.

Did you know there was anyone there before you started down?

Mr. Williams.

Well, I thought I heard somebody walking, the windows moving or something. I said maybe someone is down there, I said to myself. And I just went on down.

Mr. Ball.

Did you find anybody there?

Mr. Williams.

As I remember, when I was walking up, I think Harold Norman and James Jarman as I remember, they was down facing the Elm Street on the fifth floor, as I remember.

Mr. Ball.

Now, I want to call your attention to another report I have here.

On the 23d of November 1963, the report of Mr. Odum and Mr. Griffin, FBI agents, is that you told them that you went from the sixth floor to the fifth