Mrs. Paine.

in Texas, I can't remember just what I said that elicited it from him, but some reference to, shall I say that you have gone, or how can I--what shall I say about the husband, where is the husband?

Mr. Jenner.

Do the best in your own words.

Mrs. Paine.

Shall I say that you have gone away or away looking for work or something? What shall I say about you?

Mr. Jenner.

This is Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

This is in English now, this one English conversation.

Mr. Jenner.

By you?

Mrs. Paine.

Apropos of being prepared to admit her to Parkland. I asked, what shall I say about him, that he is gone or what?
He said, "Oh, no, that might appear that I had abandoned her."
And I was glad to hear him say that he didn't at all want it to appear or to feel of himself that he had abandoned her.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything as to what representations you might make to Parkland Hospital and other State authorities in that respect?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

On the trip back to--may I defer the packing until Representative Ford returns--on the trip back to Irving, Tex., did you and Marina discuss the subject matter of Lee's going to Houston, Tex, or to Philadelphia to look for a job?

Mrs. Paine.

No; we didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

At any time during the weekend you were in New Orleans or driving from New Orleans to Irving, Tex. was the friend identified, the supposed friend?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

In Houston, identified?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I remember wondering if there was one.

Mr. Jenner.

You wondered at the time?

Mrs. Paine.

I wondered to myself if there was one.

Mr. Jenner.

What made you wonder?

Mrs. Paine.

I may say, also, I wondered, as I have already indicated for the Commission, I had wondered, from time to time, whether this was a man who was working as a spy or in any way a threat to the Nation, and I thought, "This is the first I have heard anything about a contact. I am interested to know if this is a real thing or something unreal." And waited to see really whether I would learn any more about it. But this thought crossed my mind.

Mr. Jenner.

It did? Now, many of my questions are directed towards trying to find out what this man did with his time. When he went job hunting, according to some of the records here, he appeared to return home rather promptly. That is, he would leave in the morning but he would be home before noontime.

Mrs. Paine.

Oh.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you notice anything of that nature?

Mrs. Paine.

I never saw him when he was job hunting. The times in New Orleans, of course, I wasn't there. The times in April he was job hunting from a base of 214 Neely Street, and in October he was operating from the base of the room on Beckley Street. So I never saw him.

Mr. Jenner.

So that as far as--this I would like to bring out, Mr. Chairman--as far as your contact with Lee Harvey Oswald as such, Mrs. Paine, your opportunities for knowing what he did with his time were limited, were they not?

Mrs. Paine.

They were limited.

Mr. Jenner.

That is in the spring, there was this New Orleans period when he was absent in New Orleans altogether during the 2 weeks that Marina was with you?

Mrs. Paine.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

It is the period preceding the trip to New Orleans that they lived a little distance from you, and that was in a period of your really becoming more acquainted with them. Were you aware of what Mr. Oswald was doing during the daytime, or evening along in that period of time?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

In the fall when you saw him then for 2 days and 3 nights in