Mr. Jenner.

That is you girls planned to do that?

Mrs. Paine.

She and I did; yes.

Representative Ford.

Mr. Jenner, do you plan to ask questions about the process of packing of the car?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; I do. Now, this improvement in the attitude of Lee Harvey Oswald, arrested your deliberate attention--didn't it?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; it did. It was really the first I had felt any sympathy for him at all.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have any feeling that he, in turn, felt that he might not be seeing Marina any more?

Mrs. Paine.

I had no feeling of that whatever.

Mr. Jenner.

None whatsoever.

Mrs. Paine.

He told me that he was going to try to look for work in Houston, and possibly in Philadelphia; these were the two names he mentioned.

Mr. Jenner.

We are interested in that, in this particular phase of the investigation. Did he make that statement in your presence, in the presence of Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it that this was elicited by a discussion of the subject of his going to look for work after you girls had left, is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

About what he would do after we left?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, would you repeat just what he said on that subject?

Mrs. Paine.

He told me that he was going to go to Houston to look for work, or possibly to Philadelphia.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything about having any acquaintances or friends in either of those towns

Mrs. Paine.

He did. You recalled to my mind he said he had a friend in Houston.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he mention other towns he might undertake to visit?

Mrs. Paine.

No; he didn't. Or any other friends.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any inference or did you infer from anything he said or which might have been said in your presence that after you girls left he intended to leave New Orleans? To look--

Mrs. Paine.

He was definitely planning to leave New Orleans after we left.

Mr. Jenner.

Promptly?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You had that definite impression?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And he put it in terms of leaving New Orleans to go to Houston, or what was the other town?

Mrs. Paine.

Possibly Philadelphia.

Mr. Jenner.

Possibly Philadelphia. Now, during all that weekend, was there any discussion of anybody going to Mexico?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Was the subject of Mexico discussed at any time and in any respect?

Mrs. Paine.

Not at any time nor any respect.

Mr. Jenner.

On the trip back to Irving, Tex., did Marina say anything on the subject of Mexico?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you girls discuss what Lee was going to do during this interim period?

Mrs. Paine.

Only to the extent that he was looking for a job, but I think that discussion, my memory of it comes from a discussion with Lee rather than a discussion with her. I may say that we never talked about any particular time, he would see Marina again.

Mr. Jenner.

You did not?

Mrs. Paine.

He kissed her a very fond goodbye, both at home and then again at the gas station, and I felt he cared and he would certainly see her. And this I recalled the other night. It should be put in here. As he was giving me this material, I have already mentioned, that indicated his claim to 1 year residence