Mr. Kellerman.

am so positive, gentlemen, that it was his voice there is only one man in that back seat that was from Boston, and the accents carried very clearly.

Mr. Specter.

Well, had you become familiar with the President's voice prior to that day?

Mr. Kellerman.

Yes; very much so.

Mr. Specter.

And what was the basis for your becoming familiar with his voice prior to that day?

Mr. Kellerman.

I had been with him for 3 years.

Mr. Specter.

And had you talked with him on a very frequent basis during the course of that association?

Mr. Kellerman.

He was a very free man to talk to; yes. He. knew most all the men, most everybody who worked in the White House as well as everywhere, and he would call you.

Mr. Specter.

And from your experience would you say that you could recognize the voice?

Mr. Kellerman.

Very much, sir; I would.

Mr. Specter.

Now, I think you may have answered this, but I want to pin-point just when you heard that statement which you have attributed to President Kennedy in relationship to the sound which you described as a firecracker.

Mr. Kellerman.

This noise which I attribute as a firecracker, when this occurred and I am in the process of determining where it comes because I am sure it came off my right rear somewhere; the voice broke in right then.

Mr. Specter.

At about the same time?

Mr. Kellerman.

That is correct, sir. That is right.

Mr. Specter.

Now, did President Kennedy say anything beside, "My God, I am hit."

Mr. Kellerman.

That is the last words he said, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Did Mrs. Kennedy say anything at that specific time?

Mr. Kellerman.

Mr. Specter, there was an awful lot of confusion in that back seat. She did a lot of talking which I can't recall all the phrases.

Mr. Specter.

Well, pinpoint--

Mr. Kellerman.

But after the flurry of shots, I recall her saying, "What are they doing to you?" Now again, of course, my comparison of the voice of her speech--certainly, I have heard it many times, and in the car there was conversation she was carrying on through shock, I am sure.

Mr. Specter.

Well, going back to the precise time that you heard the President say, "My God, I am hit," do you recollect whether she said anything at that time?

Mr. Kellerman.

No.

Mr. Specter.

Whether or not you can re-create what she said?

Mr. Kellerman.

Not that I can recall right then sir. This statement, or whatever she said, happened after all the shooting was over.

Mr. Specter.

All right. Now, you have described hearing a noise which sounded like a firecracker and you have described turning to your right and described hearing the President's voice and, again, what was your next motion, if any, or movement, if any?

Mr. Kellerman.

After I was sure that his statement was right that he was hit, turned from the back I come right down--

Mr. Specter.

You just indicated that you had turned to the left. Had you turned to the left after hearing his voice?

Mr. Kellerman.

Yes; certainly.

Mr. Specter.

And what did you see? You have described what you saw in terms of position of his hands.

Mr. Kellerman.

That was it.

Mr. Specter.

What did you do next?

Mr. Kellerman.

That is when I completely turned to my right and grabbed for the mike in the same motion, sideways telling the driver, "Let's get out of here; we are hit."

Mr. Specter.

Will you give us the best estimate of the lapse of time from the instant you heard the sound which appeared to you to be a firecracker until you instructed Mr. Greer in the way you have described?

Mr. Kellerman.

Seconds.