Mrs. Paine.

My then 2-year-old boy found a number of boys with trucks to play with right on that immediate driveway or alley as it is marked on the paper and small boys would have been very interested and they went right by there and Marina complained that Junie couldn't get her nap because there were so many children.

Mr. Mccloy.

He could have done it very early in the morning without observation?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Dulles.

Have you any idea generally how Lee Oswald used his time, I mean when you weren't observing him when he wasn't at your house? Did he talk, tell you how he used his time? Did he use it on television? What I am trying to get at is--is there a great deal of time he had available to him that there is no way of knowing what he did. But did he talk about that, did he give you an idea of what he was, how he occupied himself, reading, television?

Mrs. Paine.

Talking just about the time after October 4 when he was--

Mr. Dulles.

Yes; let's take it in that period.

Mrs. Paine.

I knew he was occupied with looking for a job.

Mr. Dulles.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

How much of the day this occupied him, of course, I didn't know. I didn't see him. Then he got the job, and I judge that occupied him more fully. He spoke of one evening meeting he went to, this National Indignation Committee meeting.

Mr. Dulles.

What about other evenings? Do you know anything about other evenings when he wasn't with you?

Mrs. Paine.

Except for the one in which he accompanied my husband to a Civil Liberties Union meeting.

Mr. Dulles.

All right.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did you, at any stage of your life while you were, whether living with your husband or apart from him, did you ever contemplate inviting anyone to come and live with you in anything like the manner in which you did invite Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

My mother completed her studies at Oberlin College in February, and we talked-----

Mr. Jenner.

February 1963?

Mrs. Paine.

No; just now, February of 1964 and we talked about the possibility as long ago as last summer of 1963, we talked about the possibility of her coming and staying for several months. I said I was tired of living alone. This is not exactly comparable, but it also is a search for a roommate.

Mr. Mccloy.

But apart from your mother, there was no one similarly situated to Marina, whom you thought of inviting to live with you?

Mrs. Paine.

No one situated similarly that I knew either.

Mr. Mccloy.

No; you didn't invite anyone?

Mrs. Paine.

Didn't make any other such invitation.

Mr. Mccloy.

Anyone to live with you.

Mr. Jenner.

Before returning to the automobile and somewhat along the tail end at least of Representative Boggs' inquiries of you, did you ever give any consideration, Mrs. Paine, to the possibility that Lee Harvey Oswald might have been employed by some agency of the Government of the United States?

Mrs. Paine.

I never gave that any consideration.

Mr. Jenner.

None whatsoever?

Mrs. Paine.

None whatsoever.

Mr. Jenner.

It never occurred to you at any time?

Mrs. Paine.

It never occurred to me at any time.

Mr. Jenner.

That is all on that.
Was the absence of its occurring to you based on your overall judgment of Lee Harvey Oswald and his lack, as you say, of, not a highly intelligent man?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

There was some reason why you gave it no thought, is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

That, and he was not in a position to know anything of use to either Government. I am questioning myself.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you please elaborate?