Mrs. Paine.

As regards he might be a Soviet agent, what does this man know that would be of interest to anybody or what could you find out, and you judge he didn't know anything that the Soviets might be interested in, and, as I say, I never gave it any thought of the possibility of his being employed by this Government.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, Representative Ford, Mrs. Paine had been relating to us her experiences with Lee Harvey Oswald with respect to his ability to operate an automobile, and she has up to this moment revealed some things to us which we had not known of and it is something that is causing the staff considerable concern. This is his ability to drive which is a proper connection with his visit to Mexico in some one or two instances and also his escape or his attempted escape and other elements.
We interrupted the chronology to have Mrs. Paine state fully everything she knows on this particular subject.

Representative Ford.

It is important.

Mr. Jenner.

If we can recall just about where you were because I would like to have you pick it up just exactly where you were in this chronology.

Mrs. Paine.

I had about completed the full statement Of what I saw of his driving.
I will pick up by repeating when he turned a right angle corner he would turn too far and have to correct. I will complete now by describing my teaching him to park.

Mr. Jenner.

Was this on that same Sunday afternoon?

Mrs. Paine.

There were, I think, three altogether, but I am not certain. This is the only particular reference.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, but I think, Mr. Chairman, Representative Ford. Mrs. Paine has related to us something we had not known. that this Sunday afternoon-

Mrs. Paine.

October 13.

Mr. Jenner.

October 13, when she sought to instruct Lee Harvey Oswald on the local parking lot--was it by a shopping center?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

That he had gotten into the car, in the driveway, with the key and had turned on the motor of the car, had backed it up into the street.

Mrs. Paine.

And then proceeded to drive to the shopping center.

Mr. Jenner.

With Mrs. Paine.

Mrs. Paine.

While I complained.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Paine complaining because she was concerned; she is the daughter of an insurance actuary.

Mrs. Paine.

In my complaint I simply said that I would drive back, and that I didn't want him to drive on the street, but I didn't insist that he stop at that moment.

Mr. Jenner.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mrs. Paine.

I recall one other afternoon when he practiced just parking directly in front of our house, and when, as I say, after he had done this he wanted me to drive the car into the driveway, that being a little harder to do.

Mr. Jenner.

Where did you keep your car ordinarily, in the driveway?

Mrs. Paine.

Always in the driveway in front of our house; the garage itself is too full of many other things.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you leave the key in the car?

Mrs. Paine.

I never leave the key in the car; I always lock it.

Mr. Jenner.

That was your habit with respect to the ignition key?

Mrs. Paine.

I always lock the car and leave the ignition key in my purse.

Mr. Jenner.

You never leave the ignition key around your home?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, my purse was in the home.

Mr. Jenner.

So it was not in the open?

Mrs. Paine.

He had to go in the purse, never. Just how he got the car started, I recall my shock that he had. But I must have laid out the key or something because I did not intend for him to start it.

Mr. Jenner.

You didn't give him the key on that occasion to go out and start the motor?

Mrs. Paine.

Absolutely not.