Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Chairman, might it be helpful and permissible if I had the witness stand to your rear and point to the diagram so that you might follow her testimony?

Mr. Mccloy.

Very well.

Mrs. Paine.

This street is Magazine Street; it is a corner house.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, Mrs. Paine, left on your plot is east and west and up and down. are north and south?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; that is the way I recall it. This is a corner house and there was room enough--

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, I have to keep the record. You are referring now to a square on the right-hand margin of your outline.

Mrs. Paine.

Between this house, and the courtyard and house where the Oswalds were staying, there was room enough to drive a car.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you marked the courtyard with that word?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you have written "courtyard" in the sort of an "L" shaped space that you have indicated on the plot, is that right?

Mrs. Paine.

This is a square space cut by a walk.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mrs. Paine.

This was a low fence.

Mr. Jenner.

When you say this, it does not help us on the record; what is this to which you have pointed--you have written something across it?

Mrs. Paine.

Around this courtyard and in front of the house was a low metal picket fence.

Mr. Jenner.

That you have so designated?

Mrs. Paine.

Correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Thank you.

Mrs. Paine.

There was grass within this small courtyard or walk, step--

Mr. Jenner.

Which you have also marked "walk"?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. Steps going up.

Mr. Jenner.

Which you have likewise so marked?

Mrs. Paine.

To a screened porch.

Mr. Jenner.

Likewise so marked?

Mrs. Paine.

And then the doorway from the porch goes into the living room.

Mr. Jenner.

And the living room is marked "Living room." Would you use those name and those designations as you testify?

Mrs. Paine.

All right.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, would you please indicate the courtyard or square or oblong portion you have marked, rectangular portion, that was open space, was it, it was not roofed?

Mrs. Paine.

It was fully open.

Mr. Jenner.

It was fully open, and it faced out on Magazine Street?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

And was there open space to the east, that would be toward the building, which you have merely designated as an empty square?

Mrs. Paine.

I will write in here "driveway ;" this was open here as a driveway.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Paine, is that what you have now marked a building, a dwelling?

Mrs. Paine.

It was a dwelling.

Mr. Jenner.

Were there dwellings to the south of Magazine Street and on the opposite side of the street?

Mrs. Paine.

That so far as I recall, that is my best recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

What was to the east in the way of dwellings or buildings?

Mrs. Paine.

The rest of the house; they lived in a portion; entered from the side door of a large house; I assume it was once a one-family dwelling.

Mr. Jenner.

Then for our purpose here as far as the courtyard is concerned on the east it was--there was a walk?

Mrs. Paine.

A building.

Mr. Jenner.

West, I am sorry. On the west line of the courtyard there was a walk?

Mrs. Paine.

Right.