(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine)
Mr. Mccloy.
Do you have any more questions? We are going to resume in the morning at 9 o'clock.
The Chairman.
Will you be here?
Mr. Mccloy.
Yes; I will be here.
The Chairman.
Then you continue to preside throughout her testimony. I will be here, though.
Mr. Dulles.
I have no questions.
Mr. Mccloy.
Do you want to close?
Mr. Jenner.
I would just as soon adjourn now, if it suits your convenience.
Mr. Mccloy.
All right. We will excuse you. Thank you for your cooperation.
(Whereupon, at 5:20 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)
Mr. Mccloy.
Thursday, March 19, 1964
Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed
Mr. Mccloy.
The President's Commission met at 9:05 a.m. on March 19, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C.
Present were Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman; Senator John Sherman Cooper, Representative Hale Boggs, Representative Gerald R. Ford, John J. McCloy, and Allen W. Dulles, members.
Also present were Albert E. Jenner, Jr., assistant counsel; and Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel.
Mr. Mccloy.
Mrs. Paine, I must remind you that you are still under affirmation. We don't take a new affirmation with each hearing.
Mr. Jenner.
We had concluded. if you recall, the 15-day period in May that Mrs. Oswald resided at the home of Mrs. Paine.
Would you please describe for us the items of household furniture, or whatever the articles were, that were packed in your station wagon when you took Mrs. Oswald to New Orleans?
Mrs. Paine.
We packed in a play pen and crib. I recall a stroller, some kitchen utensils, and personal clothing for herself and the baby.
Mr. Jenner.
Was there any luggage of any character?
Mrs. Paine.
There may have been a small suitcase but I don't recall it specifically.
Mr. Jenner.
You do not?
Mrs. Paine.
I am just guessing.
Mr. Jenner.
As I recall you have told us yesterday that when you arrived in New Orleans, you went by the Murrets' home first?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Mr. Jenner.
And then from the Murrets' home to the apartment at, what was that address on Magazine Street?
Mrs. Paine.
4907.
Mr. Jenner.
That was 4907 rather than 4905.
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, there has been a touch of testimony, at least of the possibility that Mr. Oswald may have dry-fired or dry-sighted any rifle in the courtyard or garden space at 4907?
Would you be good, enough to draw for us free hand the layout, at least the ground layout of the 4907 premises on Magazine Street in New Orleans?
Mrs. Paine.
Now, shall I describe this?
Mr. Jenner.
Could I first show the diagram. I have marked the diagram the witness has drawn as Commission Exhibit No. 403.
(The diagram referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 403 for identification.)
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