Mr. Jenner.

On the north of the courtyard there was the screened porch and to the east, but with intervening driveway there was a dwelling house?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Then the courtyard was open on Magazine Street?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Does your recollection serve you that anybody standing in the courtyard and dry-sighting a rifle would be visible to people who just happened by, or who would be looking out a window on the south side of Magazine Street, or in the home or in the dwelling house to the east of the courtyard?

Mrs. Paine.

He would have been very visible. Would have collected a clutch of small boys.

Mr. Jenner.

This was a neighborhood, then, in which there were small children?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it a reasonably busy street?

Mrs. Paine.

Very busy street.

Mr. Jenner.

What were the days of the week that you were there when you returned, when you brought Mrs. Oswald to New Orleans?

Mrs. Paine.

When we first went down, we arrived on Saturday, I was there Sunday and Monday and left Tuesday morning.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.
Does your recollection serve so that you can state that the days you were there you observed during the daytime, at least many or a reasonable number of small children and mothers and fathers, in and about the neighborhood?

Mrs. Paine.

A good many small children and adults.

Mr. Jenner.

Was that likewise true when you returned in September about which you will testify in a few moments?

Mrs. Paine.

That was certainly true in September.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Chairman, I offer in evidence as Commission Exhibit No. 403, a plot which Mrs. Paine has just drawn and which is so marked.

Mr. Mccloy.

So received.
(The diagram referred to heretofore, marked Commission Exhibit No. 403 for identification, was received in evidence.)
(At this point, Mr. Dulles entered the hearing room.)

Mr. Jenner.

Was the dwelling in which the Oswalds were residing, 4907 Magazine Street, a single level or a double level house?

Mrs. Paine.

It was all on the ground floor.

Mr. Jenner.

It Was a one-story house, one story high?

Mrs. Paine.

It was a segment of a house that probably had two stories to it. I don't recall. But the segment they had was all on one level.

Mr. Jenner.

And that was the ground level?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Directing your attention to Exhibit No. 403, and Mr. Dulles, would you favor me by handing her the exhibit, and with particular reference to the screen porch, the screen porch likewise opened up on Magazine Street, did it?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, it was set back a short space from the street, but the door opened up toward Magazine.

Mr. Jenner.

The screened portion, that is, that faced on Magazine Street?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

If anyone were on the screen porch, let us say, dry-sighting a rifle or some other firearm, would he be, would that person be observable from Magazine Street, and from the east?

Mrs. Paine.

I doubt he would have been noticed from Magazine Street--A small boy passing in the driveway could have looked through the screen, up to the

Mr. Jenner.

That is to the east?

Mrs. Paine.

I will mark "screen" on the south and east side so you know it is screened on both sides.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall for certainty but there may have been a kind of