(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine)
Mr. Jenner.
Was it larger or smaller than the one you have described?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't recall with certainty.
Mr. Jenner.
Was there a third?
Mrs. Paine.
There may have been a third. I certainly recall this radio that was unusual. The others I don't.
Mr. Jenner.
It is possible you might be confused between the radio case and a suitcase.
Mrs. Paine.
No, no; no possibility of that.
Mr. Jenner.
All right. He checked all these articles, checked them into the bus station?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And did you and Lee and Marina return to their home?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you remain there?
Mrs. Paine.
No. He then helped pack up the remaining things, the playpen. the bed, and then we left there midafternoon, perhaps 4, all of this must have taken quite a long time, because--
Mr. Jenner.
They removed everything from their home?
Mrs. Paine.
They removed everything that remained to them.
Mr. Jenner.
Put it in the station wagon?
Mrs. Paine.
Put it in the station wagon and went with Lee and Marina.
Mr. Jenner.
Your station wagon was big enough to hold everything in the house, is that correct?
Mrs. Paine.
Well, they had no furniture, but it held all the rest of their things; yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he do the packing?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
What were you doing in the meantime?
Mrs. Paine.
Packing was haphazard, this packing was haphazard; put the dishes in a box and carried it out to the car.
Mr. Jenner.
It was in the open so you could see what went into your car?
Mrs. Paine.
I think so. I certainly then repacked it to go to New Orleans.
Mr. Jenner.
Well, I want to stick with this occasion, please.
Mrs. Paine.
All right.
Mr. Jenner.
Was there a rifle packed in the back of the car?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
You didn't see any kind of weapon?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Firearm, rifle, pistol, or otherwise?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I saw nothing of that nature.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you drive them to your home?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Were the materials and things in your station wagon unpacked and placed in your home?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; immediately.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you see that being done, were you present?
Mrs. Paine.
I helped do it; yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you see any weapon on that occasion?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Whether a rifle, pistol or--
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Or any covering, any package, that looked as though it might have a weapon, pistol, or firearm?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Up to this moment, Mrs. Paine, had there been any discussion with Marina or with Lee Harvey Oswald in connection with his life in Russia with the use of a firearm or his right to use one in Russia?
Mrs. Paine.
I never heard him mention anything of this sort. Michael told me later he mentioned it to Michael.
Mr. Mccloy.
State that, please.
Mrs. Paine.
Michael told me later that Lee had complained in Michael's hearing that they did not permit a private individual to have a gun, but I didn't
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