Mr. Jenner.

To the best of your recollection it is now that you had not discussed the subject with Marina up to this occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

Not the subject of staying on with me as an alternative to going back to Russia.

Mr. Jenner.

Only staying with you in the fall?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

When the baby came?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you say, Mrs. Paine excuse me. First, have you exhausted your recollection of everything that Lee Oswald said on that occasion when you arrived there?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you say?

Mrs. Paine.

I said, yes, I would take his bags to the station if he wanted me to.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mrs. Paine.

And we then did.

Mr. Jenner.

You Just left?

Mrs. Paine.

Take them to the bus station to be checked.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Marina accompany you?

Mrs. Paine.

Marina went, and he checked the baggage. It was rather more than he could have carried on the city bus, and I am sure he preferred me to a taxi because I don't cost as much.

Mr. Jenner.

You didn't cost anything?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right. And he then bought a ticket, he bought a ticket for Marina, I mean I was thinking, while he was in the bus station, and suggested that it would be a very difficult thing for a pregnant woman with a small child to take a 12-hour, 13-hour bus trip to New Orleans, and suggested that I drive her down with June.

Mr. Jenner.

You volunteered this?

Mrs. Paine.

I volunteered this, and suggested further that instead of her staying at her--at the apartment, as was planned at that time, while waiting to hear from him, that she come and stay at my house where he would reach us by phone, and where she would have someone else with her while she waited to hear if he got work.

Mr. Jenner.

This was the conversation between you and Lee Harvey Oswald? Was it in English or in Russian?

Mrs. Paine.

Probably in Russian. I would think so, because I wanted her to understand.

Mr. Jenner.

Was Marina along?

Mrs. Paine.

She was present.

Mr. Jenner.

She was present; I see.

Representative Ford.

This took place where, in the car?

Mrs. Paine.

Probably in the bus station--in the car near the bus station. He then took the bus ticket back, returned it, and got the money.

The Chairman.

Ticket for her?

Mrs. Paine.

Ticket for her.

Mr. Dulles.

Her bus ticket?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; and he left some money for her for buying things in the next few days before she could join him.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he get on the bus then and depart?

Mrs. Paine.

No; the bus left in the evening We all drove back to the apartment after he had checked the baggage, and he helped load the baby things and things that Marina would need during the next few days into my car, and we emptied what was left there of the things that were in the apartment, and which belonged to them, and then drove, I drove with Marina and June and my two children back to my house, and he stayed at the apartment. He was scheduled to leave by bus, city bus, and an interstate bus that evening.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it then, Mrs. Paine, that your impression was that it was contemplated, when you arrived at the Oswalds that morning, that Mrs. Oswald, Marina, and her child June, and her husband, Lee, were contemplating going to New Orleans together that day?

Mrs. Paine.

No.