Mrs. Ford.

but frail and fragile, I think any man who strikes a woman who is incapable of striking back, I would think would be unstable.

Mr. Liebeler.

This Russian group that we have been discussing, Mr. Bouhe and these other people, do they see each other regularly? Is there sort of a Russian community in Dallas, would you say?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; there are about, I think, maybe four families in Fort Worth and maybe half a dozen in Dallas or more than that, but that mainly we see each other, and there is one Eastern Orthodox Church in Russia where that is where we actually meet each other.

Mr. Liebeler.

In Dallas, you mean, or Fort Worth?

Mrs. Ford.

Dallas. I am sorry. In Dallas, and we still observe our Eastern Orthodox religion during the holidays and sometimes like Christmas falls 13 days after the American Christmas so there is New Year's sometimes we celebrate those.

Mr. Liebeler.

How well do you know the De Mohrenschildts?

Mrs. Ford.

Well, I know George De Mohrenschildt the same, approximately, I will say I was acquainted with him for approximately 14 years but I don't know him well.

Mr. Liebeler.

You mentioned before that De Mohrenschildt was the only member of the Russian community that kept on seeing the Oswalds and trying to help them.
Was there any discussion about that among your friends?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; George De Mohrenschildt is rather an odd ball, among Russians anyway, so it was nothing unusual about him doing that. He was always doing something unusual. He would even go to church with shorts on, you know, this is something, he would do something that nobody else would do.

Mr. Liebeler.

Shorts?

Mrs. Ford.

Shorts.

Mr. Liebeler.

Short trousers?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember any specific conversations about the reasons as to why De Mohrenschildt continued to associate with the Oswalds after the rest of you had given them up.

Mrs. Ford.

Well, I remember his wife was telling me like she felt it was their duty now since everybody else dropped them and they needed help.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember any conversation with the Oswalds among any of your friends as to whether or not Oswald went hunting in Russia and had access to weapons?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; I think that George Bouhe was telling me that. He was telling him that he was going hunting and he told him about killing ducks or something of that type.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you remember that in any greater detail?

Mrs. Ford.

No; I don't remember it. I only remember that because of the way he was saying, "ducks" in Russian, George was saying that he was using sort of a word when you call for it, it is a small duck rather than for ducks, he was saying that his Russian wasn't perfect.
I mean in that conversation he was using, an example of he was saying, when he would go hunting for ducks, instead of "utki" for ducks he would say "utitschki" that would mean small ducks, and he was saying that his Russian was imperfect.

Mr. Liebeler.

That is Oswald's Russian?

Mrs. Ford.

That is right.

Mr. Liebeler.

What about Marina's ability to speak English at that time, did she speak English at that time?

Mrs. Ford.

I don't think she did. She could speak a few words but I don't think she did.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did any of you attempt to teach her English?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; George Bouhe was attempting to teach her to write and was giving her lessons.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you tell us something about that?

Mrs. Ford.

Well, he was telling me that he had gotten her a dictionary and he had--or some other book anyway and he was telling me that every time he