Mr. Liebeler.

So far as you know Mr. Bouhe had no more contact with the Oswalds after that?

Mrs. Ford.

No; I don't think so.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have any conversation with any of your friends in Dallas or Fort Worth on the question of Oswald's ability to leave Russia and come back to the United States and bring Marina with him?

Mrs. Ford.

We didn't speculate on that until really later, until now, after the assassination that subject came up, and people asking why they left so soon. He was telling me it took them a year, so I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there any conversation prior to the assassination, during this period in 1962, any speculation as to whether Oswald might be an agent of any government?

Mrs. Ford.

No. I frankly didn't think he was capable of it. That was my feeling on it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Were there any conversations on that?

Mrs. Ford.

No. There were not.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember that Mr. Bouhe suggested at one time that Oswald was a mental case?

Mrs. Ford.

Mr. Bouhe, he might have; yes, I think we all thought that.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember that Mr. Bouhe said that?

Mrs. Ford.

I don't remember particularly that he would say that.

The Chairman.

Did you say, "We all thought that"?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; we thought that, that he was rather mentally--you just said the word before.

The Chairman.

Unstable?

Mrs. Ford.

Unstable.

Mr. Liebeler.

Unstable.
Why did you think that, Mrs. Ford?

Mrs. Ford.

In my own opinion, I just didn't think that a man as young as he was could come to the conclusions just by rather experiences or living a long time in America and I mean studying the whole economic structures of different governments, and things that he would come to the conclusion that is the best thing for him. I think he was just rather too young for that.
I thought he was just rather--something was rather wrong with the man.

Mr. Liebeler.

You based this--

Representative Ford.

In the conversation that Oswald had with this Japanese lady at your party, did you overhear any of that conversation?

Mrs. Ford.

No; I did not. I did not have time, I was the hostess and I just didn't get to talk to anyone.

Representative Ford.

Did you ever ask the Japanese lady what the gist of the conversation was or what the content of the conversation was?

Mrs. Ford.

No; I never have. In fact, I have not seen her after that. That was the first time she came to my house. I mean I have seen her later on in the beauty shop but I have never talked to her about it.

Representative Ford.

Did she speak English?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; she speaks English well.

Representative Ford.

All right.

Mr. Liebeler.

At this get-together that you mentioned at your house on. I think it was the 29th, after the party, the informal get-together, the Rays were there, and the Sullivans, and Mr. and Mrs. Harris.
Would it refresh your recollection if I suggested to you that some of the people that were there at that party said the possibility of Oswald being a Russian agent was discussed in detail at that party in that group?

Mrs. Ford.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't remember any of the discussion?

Mrs. Ford.

I don't remember any of the discussion.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is there anything other than what you told us that led you to believe that Oswald was unstable or a mental case?

Mrs. Ford.

Nothing, except that I was thinking about him myself beating his wife. That would have, been one reason. I don't think that any stable man would do that, especially she appeared to me very sick sort of a woman, not sick,