Mrs. Ford.

During the party?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mrs. Ford.

No; I didn't talk to him at all.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you didn't overhear anybody else talking about Oswald's experiences in Russia?

Mrs. Ford.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

You mentioned that the Oswalds came with De Mohrenschildt. Did they go home with De Mohrenschildt?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; they did because Mrs. De Mohrenschildt stated that the lady who stayed with Oswald's child had to leave at 12 o'clock and they left before that.

Mr. Liebeler.

After the Oswalds left the party, was there any discussion about the Oswalds that you can remember?

Mrs. Ford.

No; really not. I don't think they made a big impression on that party on anybody.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you fix the date on which your party was held?

Mrs. Ford.

The 28th of December.

Mr. Liebeler.

What year?

Mrs. Ford.

1962.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there any other party the next day or the day after that?

Mrs. Ford.

There were other parties. I don't think that Marina and her husband were present. I don't know if you would call it a party, there was a sort of a get-together at my house afterward because some people stayed over in town for a few days, I think that was the Rays, and the Harrises, and a friend of my husband from Louisiana, Sullivans, stayed there. But they hadn't met Oswald, they came much later after 12 o'clock. So we sort of had a get-together.

Mr. Liebeler.

This would have been the next day?

Mrs. Ford.

The next day.

Mr. Liebeler.

On the 29th of December. Was Mr. Bouhe--

Mrs. Ford.

No; Mr. Bouhe wasn't present at that time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there any conversation at that time about Oswald?

Mrs. Ford.

I don't remember, I don't think so.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember that there was a party or open house at Mr. Bouhe's house on the 29th?

Mrs. Ford.

If there was, I wasn't present, I didn't go.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there a party at Meller's house?

Mrs. Ford.

There was a party or luncheon.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you go?

Mrs. Ford.

No; I didn't go.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you hear any conversation during this period of 3 or 4 days about Oswald, anybody speculating about Oswald or discussing his experiences--

Mrs. Ford.

No; I think--

Mr. Liebeler.

In Russia?

Mrs. Ford.

I think at that time everyone rather--George Bouhe said he was not going to help them any more, he was through, since Marina, he tried to help her very hard, and she did not hold her word about not going back to him. So he said since she went back, so now it is her problem.
Well, he is sort of that type of man, he is trying to help hard and if you are doing what he says otherwise he is not going to help, so that was it. So it was rather, sort of Marina and her husband were dropped at that time, nobody actually wanted to help, and I think what they heard about Lydia Dymitruk was saying that he couldn't help those people. I mean they were just sort of--he couldn't reach them. He was lying in hospital and things, we sort of gave it up.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Lydia make that remark at one of those parties or was that at a previous time?

Mrs. Ford.

Oh, that was a previous time. As soon as she left to go back to her husband, George Bouhe even took the Russian dictionary back to him. He told her to give it back and he was just through with him.