Mr. Frazier.

heavy duty bags you know like you obtain from the grocery store, something like that, about the same color of that, paper sack you get there.

Mr. Ball.

Was there anything more said about the paper sack on the way into town?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; there wasn't.

Mr. Ball.

What route did you take into town that day?

Mr. Frazier.

Went down--you know, I told you I had two routes; that day I went down, you know, Fifth Street runs into Sixth after you cross the Storey Road there, so I just went on down Sixth until I come to O'Connor, and then took a left on O'Connor and it takes you right on out to Stemmons and from there I went right on into Stemmons and come up Commerce, and you go up Commerce, there until you hit Record Street, that is one block over from Houston and then I went down until I hit McKinney and then it goes right down to the warehouse and then take a left and you go right around to the parking lot.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't stop any place on your way in?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Park in the parking lot?

Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you park in the parking lot this time?

Mr. Frazier.

I parked in the same place the picture I showed you there.

Mr. Ball.

As shown in the picture. That is Exhibit No. 361. Anything else said about curtain rods?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; there wasn't.

Mr. Ball.

Anything else said about the package?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; there wasn't.

Mr. Ball.

Who got out of the car first?

Mr. Frazier.

He did.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember any conversation on the way in about anything?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; I asked him did he have fun playing with them babies and he chuckled and said he did. And so that morning I said just a few minutes after we started you know it was a cloudy day and it started misting and rain and by the time we got out on the Freeway I said, you know, how those trucks throw that grime on the windshield and finally it was getting pretty thick on there with spots of rain, and I turned on the windshield wiper and you know how grime spatters your windshield and I said. "I wish it would rain or just quit altogether, I wish it would do something to clear off the windshield," and the drops stared getting larger so eventually it cleaned off the windshield and by the time I got down to Dallas there I just turned off the windshield.
Just a few clouds, and rained a little bit to get out of it. But other than that just saying the weather was messy, that is about all.

Mr. Ball.

Was it foggy?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; not in too particular. I say in other words, just old cloudy, dull looking day and like I say fine mist of rain and after we got a little bit further we got into larger drops.

Mr. Ball.

Was there anything said about the President coming to Dallas that day?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; it wasn't.

Mr. Ball.

Did he say anything about that the day before?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever have any conversation with him with reference to the President's visit to Texas?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

When you got to the parking lot who got out of the car first?

Mr. Frazier.

He did.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't get out immediately then?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I was sitting there, say, looked at my watch and somewhere around 7 or 8 minutes until and I saw we had a few minutes and I sat there, and as I say you can see the Freeway, Stemmons Freeway, from the warehouse and also the trains coming back and forth and I was sitting there.
What I was doing--glanced up and watching cars for a minute but I was