Mr. Specter.

Yes, please.
(Witness marking.)

Mr. Specter.

Would you now mark on the same exhibit the precise position of your car as closely as you can recollect it when you heard the third shot with a letter "Z"?
(Witness marking.)

Mr. Specter.

When, in relation to the timing of the shots, which you have described, did you first look toward the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Jackson.

It couldn't have been more than 3 seconds before I looked at that window.

Mr. Specter.

Three seconds from what point in time?

Mr. Jackson.

From the last shot.

Mr. Specter.

Did you say from the last shot?

Mr. Jackson.

From the last shot, yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

What is your best recollection or estimate of the speed of your automobile as you were proceeding in a generally northerly direction on Houston Street at the time of the shooting?

Mr. Jackson.

I would say not over 15 miles an hour.

Mr. Specter.

What would your best estimate be as to the minimum speed?

Mr. Jackson.

Ten, I would say.

Mr. Specter.

Where, in the window were the two Negro men, whom you have described?

Mr. Jackson.

Well, there was one in each of those double windows.

Mr. Specter.

On which floor was that?

Mr. Jackson.

The fifth floor.

Mr. Specter.

And will you place an arrow where you saw each of those men, please?

Mr. Jackson.

Each one of them?

Mr. Specter.

Yes.
(Witness marking.)

Mr. Specter.

Did you observe any reaction from either or both of those two men when you saw them?

Mr. Jackson.

No, sir. Just looking up.

Mr. Specter.

Could you see their faces reasonably clearly to observe that they were looking up.

Mr. Jackson.

I could tell they were looking up because they were leaning way out just like that. I couldn't see their faces very well at all.

Mr. Specter.

The witness has leaned forward and turned his head to the right and looking upward as he sits in the witness chair, may the record show.

Representative Ford.

Did they both turn the same way as you have indicated in answer to Mr. Specter's question?

Mr. Jackson.

To the best of my recollection one man looked up to his right and the other man looked up like this to his left, one in each window.

Representative Ford.

Can you identify which to his right and which to his left?

Mr. Jackson.

I believe the one on the right window, my right, was looking to his right. The one on the west window, the one to my left was looking to his left. I believe I am right on that but I may not be because I just looked at them for a fraction of a second, I just followed them up.

Mr. Specter.

What is your best estimate of the distance which separated you from those two men at the time you observed them?

Mr. Jackson.

I am not very good at distances. I was about the middle block, I guess. I would say around a hundred yards, I guess.

Mr. Specter.

Did you see those two men before or after you observed the rifle.

Mr. Jackson.

Before.

Mr. Specter.

What is your best estimate of how many inches of the rifle that you observed?

Mr. Jackson.

I saw the barrel and about half--well, I did not see a telescopic