Mr. Specter.

Indicating approximately 3 feet wide?

Mr. Jackson.

Three feet or a little less maybe.

Mr. Specter.

What was the height of those boxes?

Mr. Jackson.

I would say high enough to hide a man. Let's say, between 5 and 6 feet high, I would say to the best of my recollection. From the angle I was looking at it, I would say they were 5 feet high at least.

Mr. Specter.

That is each box would be 5 feet high?

Mr. Jackson.

No; the stack, the stacked boxes.

Mr. Specter.

Could you see how many boxes were stacked up to reach a total height of 5 to 6 feet?

Mr. Jackson.

No, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Now, were you able to see anyone in front of those boxes?

Mr. Jackson.

No, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Whether or not you could identify anyone, could you see even the form or outline of the man?

Mr. Jackson.

No, sir. It looked to me like the man was over to the side of the window because the rifle was at quite an angle to me.

Mr. Specter.

Which side of the window?

Mr. Jackson.

Well, from the position of the rifle it would be the corner of the building, the east. It would be to the right of the window from my view.

Mr. Specter.

Which direction was the rifle pointing?

Mr. Jackson.

West. To my left.

Mr. Specter.

Was it pointing in a straight westerly direction or was it pointing an angle from the building.

Mr. Jackson.

It was at an angle from the building. I am not--well, let's see-- well, it wouldn't be directly west.

Mr. Specter.

What was the general line of direction of the pointing of the rifle?

Mr. Jackson.

Well, directly down the street.

Mr. Specter.

And by down the street you are pointing out what street?

Mr. Jackson.

Down Elm Street toward the triple, toward the underpass.

Mr. Specter.

Was it pointed as you have indicated at the angle which Elm Street traverses heading toward the triple underpass?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes, sir. And the rifle was pointing slightly down.

Mr. Specter.

Did you at any time in this sequence observe the President's automobile?

Mr. Jackson.

As we turned the corner--or we stopped where the intersection, actually we stopped before we began to turn left onto Elm Street, or rather I would say we hesitated and we were all looking down towards the President's car and I could see two cars going under the underpass. I barely saw the President's car. I would say just the rear end of it as it disappeared under the underpass.

Mr. Specter.

Was that the only time you saw the President's car from the time you made a right-hand turn off of Main Street onto Houston Street?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

What is your best estimate as to the time span between the first shot you heard and the last shot you heard?

Mr. Jackson.

I would say 5 to 8 seconds.

Mr. Specter.

Can you give us a breakdown between the shots which you heard as to how many seconds elapsed between each one?

Mr. Jackson.

I would say to me it seemed like 3 or 4 seconds between the first and the second, and between the second and third, well, I guess 2 seconds, they were very close together. It could have been more time between the first and second. I really can't be sure.

Mr. Specter.

Are you sure you heard three shots?

Mr. Jackson.

Yes. sir.

Mr. Specter.

Now, will you mark on the overhead shot, which is Exhibit 347, with a "Y" as precisely as you can the position of your automobile at the time you heard the second shot?

Mr. Jackson.

With a "Y"?