Mr. Carlin.

It could have been the 20th also. I'm not sure I can't remember the dates as to when I left or where I was at the time, but I do know I was in Houston before the President was killed and I do know I was in New Orleans the day he was killed, but the exact date, I do not know.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you start that tour from Dallas ?

Mr. Carlin.

This---again--as far as the date, I cannot say either.

Mr. Hubert.

. Did you go to any other places---you started in Dallas, didn't you ?

Mr. Carlin.

I think we did. I think we went to Dallas to pick up the drugs-- again--we went different ways. Sometimes we would go to Waco and Austin and then to Houston and sometimes we go from Dallas--the other highway straight down to Houston.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you been out several days ?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes; as far as the date that I left or the date that I was in a certain town, I cannot say--again.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, what places did you service in New Orleans?

Mr. Carlin.

Actually--I can take you to them but remembering the names--it seems as though it was The Caravan and then there was one particular one we were trying to sell to which we went back about three times and it was right across from the airport on Airline Road

Mr. Hubert.

The Hilton Inn?

Mr. Carlin.

Sir?

Mr. Hubert.

Was it The Hilton Inn ?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes; I believe it was.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay in New Orleans ?

Mr. Carlin.

Again--a day and a half or 2 days. When we took these trips, it was a mad trip--we worked all day and would drive all night.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you stay at any place in New Orleans?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes; at the Sugar Bowl.

Mr. Hubert.

The Sugar Bow1 Motel?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you leave it?

Mr. Carlin.

We stayed all night there and we left the next day after making a number of calls, we left the next day.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember about what time you left?

Mr. Carlin.

No; I don't. It seems as though, and you probably know better than I do---the President was killed on the day that we left. It seems as though it was this way, but I'm not sure, but probably if I had time to think it out and talk to Mr. Bunker, I could tell more specifically. I know he does have the dates that each account was serviced.

Mr. Hubert.

It's your thought that you possibly spent the night of the 21st at the Sugar Bowl Motel in New Orleans or the night of the day the President was shot, in. that motel ?

Mr. Carlin.

I don't recall. I know we spent a night in New Orleans. I know I was there and it was raining at the time the President was killed, and I know it was in the afternoon As far as the specific date, I do not know.

Mr. Hubert.

But did you spend the night in New Orleans after the President

was killed or before? Was it the night before or the night of the shooting that you spent the night?

Mr. Carlin.

I think--I am not definitely sure, but I think the day he was killed--that night we spent in New Orleans.

Mr. Hubert.

And the night before you drove up from Houston?

Mr. Carlin.

It seems like the night before we drove up and we checked into a motel and we changed clothes and went to work.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember when you were in Houston that the President visited there, would that help your memory any ?

Mr. Carlin.

That the President visited in Houston ?

Mr. Hubert.

That the President visited in Houston.

Mr. Carlin.

At the time that I was in Houston I don't recall him visiting there; no. He may have, but I don't recall it now.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you go from New Orleans?