Mr. Hubert.

And you carried these sundries around?

Mr. Carlin.

With us; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And whatever outfit the motel needed, you sold that to them ?

Mr. Carlin.

That's right and of course we would put in these cabinets, 5 by 5, in the lobby of the motel and stock it with razor blades or hair spray and headache remedies--all these things that people traveling would need.

Mr. Hubert.

You say "we", who was involved ?

Mr. Carlin.

Mr. Bunker; Jerry.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you travel together?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

So that he was with you on November 21 ?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And on November 22 ?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes; on any out-of-town trip I've ever been on, he's been with me.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you specifically recall that you were in Houston on the day before the President was shot?

Mr. Carlin.

I'm trying to recall whether it was the day before. I know I was there a day or so before. I don't know if it was the exact day before.

Mr. Hubert.

You said you were in Louisiana on the day the President was shot?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What part of Louisiana ?

Mr. Carlin.

We were in New Orleans at a large motel and I don't remember the name. We did not sell that particular account, but we were there in the process of selling the account when we got the news that he had been shot and we walked from there into a club that they have in the motel and watched it on TV.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you continue your selling tour then ?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you been to New Orleans prior to the 22d, that is to say, immediately prior ?

Mr. Carlin.

We were there, I believe, the day before, part of the day before or maybe this was--what I'm thinking is that we drove all night from Houston to New Orleans. Now, this is just like walking across the street last week--you don't remember or you don't know that you're going to have to remember.

Mr. Hubert.

But you do remember you were in New Orleans when the President was shot?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And that was the first day you had been in New Orleans?

Mr. Carlin.

I believe so.

Mr. Hubert.

And that you had driven all night to arrive in New Orleans on that day?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And furthermore, I think you said that you had driven from Houston ?

Mr. Carlin.

That's correct.

Mr. Hubert.

That would have put you then in Houston on the 21st?

Mr. Carlin.

That's correct.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you say you were there for the purpose of servicing certain motels?

Mr. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember which ones you serviced?

Mr. Carlin.

In Houston?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Carlin.

The Vagabond--a very large one downtown--I think The Carriage House, and then a number of smaller ones--five or six smaller motels, which the names of them I don't recall, but that's still not the biggest one--the biggest account down there, and I can't think of it. It's downtown.

Mr. Hubert.

How long were you in Houston altogether?

Mr. Carlin.

Again, I cannot be sure. I would say a day.

Mr. Hubert.

You think you were there only for the 21st or possibly the 20th too?