(Testimony of Richard L. Saunders)
Mr. Saunders.
I believe that will clarify any questions in my mind.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you talk to Ruby at any time about the Weissman ad?
Mr. Saunders.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Are you familiar with that ad at all?
Mr. Saunders.
Yes, I am.
Mr. Hubert.
He never spoke to you about that?
Mr. Saunders.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
He never complained to you or made any comment to you whatsoever?
Mr. Saunders.
No, he did not.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he make any comment to anyone else within your hearing?
Mr. Saunders.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know anything about the Weissman ad in this sense did you have anything to do with placing it, or do you know who placed it?
Mr. Saunders.
None whatsoever.
Mr. Hubert.
You know nothing about how it got into the paper or who placed it?
Mr. Saunders.
No, I do not.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know when he left?
Mr. Saunders.
Jack Ruby?
Mr. Hubert.
When Jack Ruby left that day, when he left the offices?
Mr. Saunders.
No, to ascertain a time, I would not try and hazard a guess, because his appearance there at the paper was a very commonplace thing, and to pay any particular attention as to when he comes and goes, we didn't.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you have any independent recollection of having seen him after the first time you saw him when you first came in?
Mr. Saunders.
Yes, I'd say I saw him in and about the office for approximately 30 minutes afterward.
Mr. Hubert.
You didn't particularly notice his departure because there was
no particular reason why you should?
Mr. Saunders.
That's correct.
Mr. Hubert.
But you do think he was there for 30 minutes after you first
arrived--and after you first saw him?
Mr. Saunders.
Right.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you see him talking to Mr. Newnam?
Mr. Saunders.
He was over in the area of Mr. Newnam's desk, where he was normally placing his ads--where he would normally be placing his ads--through Mr. Newnam. In my own recollection as to whether it was Mr. Newnam or another salesman taking care of him at the time, I can't recall.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you go to lunch with Mr. Newnam that day?
Mr. Saunders.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Can you tell us, if you know, whether Ruby was still there when the announcement that an officer had been shot, came over the news?
Mr. Saunders.
The announcement of an officer having been shot was made at approximately the same time as I entered, that there was conjecture at that time as to whether there was an officer--now, the officer you're speaking of being Tippit ?
Mr. Hubert.
Yes.
Mr. Saunders.
No, I would say he was not there at that time. There was conjecture that there might have been a Secret Service agent shot along with Kennedy at that time.
Mr. Hubert.
That was when you first came in?
Mr. Saunders.
That was when I first came in--yes.
Mr. Hubert.
But the Tippit matter was considerably later, wasn't it?
Mr. Saunders.
Right--it was considerably later, and to my knowledge Jack Ruby had departed at that time. Now, he might have been in another area of the building, I don't know.
Mr. Hubert.
What makes you believe he had departed?
Mr. Saunders.
I don't recall having seen him, As I say, I can remember him being around for approximately 30 minutes and it was considerably longer than that before the report on the Tippit shooting came through.
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