Mr. Johnston.

Chief Curry tried every way he could, with the national and international importance of this thing, to allow the press to make its coverage of it.

Mr. Hubert.

You never saw any indication of maltreatment of Oswald at all?

Mr. Johnston.

No, sir; none whatsoever in the period of some 7 or 8 hours that I was connected with it.

Mr. Hubert.

Oswald made no such accusations in your presence?

Mr. Johnston.

No, sir. As I say, the only thing he said was when he was brought in for the arraignment on President Kennedy, and he says to me, "Is this the trial?" I said, "No, sir; I have to arraign you again on another offense." And, there was some seven or eight officer witnesses to that arraignment and an assistant district attorney, and that assistant district attorney at that time was Mr. Maurice Harrell [spelling] H-a-r-r-e-l-l.

Mr. Hubert.

I believe that is all, sir. I'm obliged to ask you these questions to end it up: I don't think that we have had any conversation that has been off the record?

Mr. Johnston.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Nor .any conversation prior to the beginning of this deposition?

Mr. Johnston.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

So that all that has passed between us has been recorded?

Mr. Johnston.

That is correct, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Thank you very much. I appreciate your coming down.

Mr. Johnston.

I hope that some of it might help shed a little light.

Mr. Hubert.

I'm sure it will. I'm sure they have copies of the affidavits?

Mr. Johnston.

Yes, sir; I'm sure they have. Those were turned over to the
FBI, however, no one from the Commission has ever asked for those.

Mr. Hubert.

Could we make copies of those affidavits ?

Mr. Johnston.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Then, I will mark the copies for identification. Mr. Johnston, you will furnish for me certified copies--you have shown me the originals of the affidavits, F-153, F-154 and F-155. We are going to have photostatic copies made of those. The originals will be returned to you, and when the photostatic copies are brought back to me, I will mark them for identification as follows, to wit: F-153 will be Exhibit No. 3 of the deposition of David L. Johnston, F-154 will be Exhibit No. 4 of the deposition of David L. Johnston, and F-155 will ,be Exhibit No. 5 of the deposition of David L. Johnston, which will be marked by me for identification after you leave, but these will be photostatic copies of the originals which will remain in your possession.

Mr. Johnston.

Yes, sir

Mr. Hubert.

Thank you very much, sir.

Mr. Johnston.

I could do this--make copies now?

Mr. Hubert.

Let's discuss this a little bit more before you leave---you think you can get the copies made and just bring them to the office here and hand them to me this afternoon ?

Mr. Johnston.

Yes, sir; and I will take these affidavits over to the company
across the street myself and bring them back for you.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. That will be fine.

Mr. Johnston.

I'll do that now.

Stanley M. Kaufman
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Testimony of Stanley M. Kaufman

The testimony of Stanley M. Kaufman was taken at 9 a.m-, on June 27, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Hubert.

This is the deposition of Stanley M. Kaufman.
Mr. Kaufman, my name is Leon D. Hubert I am a member of the advisory staff of the general counsel on the President's Commission. Under the provisions