Mr. Hubert.

of Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, 1963, and the joint resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules of procedure adopted by the President's Commission in conformance with the Executive order and the joint resolution, I have been authorized to take a sworn deposition from you. state to you that the general nature of the Commission's inquiry is to ascertain, evaluate and report upon the facts relative to the assassination of President Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
In particular as to you, Mr. Kaufman, the nature of the inquiry is to determine what facts you know about the death of Oswald and any other pertinent facts you may know about the general inquiry and about Jack Ruby and his operations and associations and so forth.
I think you have appeared here today by virtue of a letter written to you by Mr. J. Lee Rankin, general counsel of the staff of the President's Commission, asking you to come, isn't that correct?

Mr. Kaufman.

That is correct.

Mr. Hubert.

The rules of the Commission provide that every witness is entitled to a 3-day written notice prior to the taking of their deposition, to commence from the date of the letter of request. It's probable that the letter request was dated the 22d and therefore the 3 days have passed, and on the other hand, you may not have received it until later, and therefore I want to say to you that the rules also provide that a witness may waive the 3-day notice in the event the 3-day notice has not actually been given, and so I ask you if you are willing to waive, in the event that technically the 3-day notice has not elapsed.

Mr. Kaufman.

Mr. Hubert, I don't know when the notice was received. I do know that I did talk to Mrs. Stroud of the U.S. attorney's office, who helped rearrange the appointment which originally was scheduled at 1 o'clock. If there was not sufficient notice, we would certainly agree to waive it.
I would like to point out probably another error in your notice and that was in the name. It was addressed to Stanley F. Kaufman. The correct name is Stanley M. Kaufman, and as far as that notice is concerned with respect to the name being incorrect on the notice, we would likewise waive that.

Mr. Hubert.

What does the "M" stand for?

Mr. Kaufman.

Mike.

Mr. Hubert.

Would you stand and raise your right hand and I will administer the oath?
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the

truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Kaufman.

I do.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you state your full name?

Mr. Kaufman.

Stanley Mike Kaufman.

Mr. Hubert.

Where do you reside?

Mr. Kaufman.

6831 Northport.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your occupation?

Mr. Kaufman.

An attorney.

Mr. Hubert.

You are admitted to the bar of the State of Texas?

Mr. Kaufman.

I am admitted to the bar of the State of Texas; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How long have you been practicing law?

Mr. Kaufman.

Actually, I graduated from SMU in 1942 and was admitted to practice law in 1942. I immediately went into the service and was discharged in October 1945, and have been in active practice since a little after October 1945, when I returned to Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Kaufman, do you know Jack L. Ruby ?

Mr. Kaufman.

Yes; I am acquainted with Jack Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

How long have you known him?

Mr. Kaufman.

Actually, Mr. Hubert, it has been difficult in my own mind to really go back, but I did go back into my files some time ago and I believe that the statement you have here that I knew him since 1954 is pretty accurate. It may be a few years difference either way.

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Kaufman, on several occasions in the past you have been attorney or lawyer for Mr. Ruby, is that not so?

Mr. Kaufman.

I have handled some matters for Mr. Ruby; yes.