Mr. Hodge.

I was on my way to town and that that would be unnecessary and I would come by, and he told me to park my car down in the basement, and I said "The police may not want me to," and he said, "Tell them I said so," so I pulled down in the basement and I couldn't find a place to park. and I parked in front of some cars, detectives cars--plain ears. and I went up on the elevator.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you said something about having a dog in your car?

Mr. Hodge.

I have a Dalmatian dog, watchdog.

Mr. Hubert.

You left him in the car?

Mr. Hodge.

I left him in the car.

Mr. Hubert.

You then proceeded from the basement to what floor?

Mr. Hodge.

The third floor.

Mr. Hubert.

How did you go?

Mr. Hodge.

On the elevator.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you escorted by anyone?

Mr. Hodge.

No; not until I got in.

Mr. Hubert.

You took the elevator in the basement?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

When you got off, what happened?

Mr. Hodge.

When I stepped out, three policemen stepped in front of me and said, "What do you want up here?" and I said, "Captain Fritz, sent for me" and one of them went into Captain Fritz' office and came back and two of Captain Fritz' detectives--they were.

Mr. Hubert.

In plain clothes?

Mr. Hodge.

In plain clothes, and they got me and escorted me into his office.

Mr. Hubert.

Captain Fritz' office?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes, sir; and we had just sat down and the lady on the desk that answered the phone and she said, "Mr. Hodge, your dog will not let the detectives get their car, would you mind going back down and moving it?" and two of the detectives escorted me back down.

Mr. Hubert.

What time was it then?

Mr. Hodge.

That was about 11:45.

Mr. Hubert.

Captain Fritz called you at about 11:05?

Mr. Hodge.

A little after 11.

Mr. Hubert.

How do you fix the time of that initial call by Fritz?

Mr. Hodge.

Well, I left my house at 11:30 and I usually get down to my store it takes me about 20 minutes, and we close the place down at 12, the bar, and so it gives me about 30 minutes from my home to the bar, and I was finishing shaving and getting ready to leave to come back to my bar.

Mr. Hubert.

So you left your house about what time?

Mr. Hodge.

About 11:30.

Mr. Hubert.

And that means that you got to the jail about what time?

Mr. Hodge.

About 11:45 or 11:50.

Mr. Hubert.

Then, by the time you got the call to go back out again to move your car it was near 12 o'clock?

Mr. Hodge.

It was around 12 o'clock. Yes; probably 5 minutes until 12; I would say.

Mr. Hubert.

Who was in Captain Fritz' office when you went in first?

Mr. Hodge.

Well--

Mr. Hubert.

Was Oswald there?

Mr. Hodge.

I didn't see Oswald. I have never seen him except on TV, but Captain Fritz has one office I don't know which office is his, but the one on the left has a glass window in it, and when I went in this hallway, out in the hallway where all the TV cameras was, there was another hallway, and Captain Fritz waved at me--he seen me through this glass and there was several people in there with him, and I went on in a little office not quite as big as this and sat down. There ,was four or five people there, and the lady on the desk--the phone rang, and she said, "Mr. Hodge, you left a dog down in your car and the detectives wants to move that car and they can't move it, and would you go down and move it," and two of the detectives got up and went with me to the elevator and got on the elevator.

Mr. Hubert.

They were in plain clothes?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes.