Mr. Hubert.

and the fact is, you said you made that investigation yourself and reported what you had found to the FBI and to the Dallas police?

Mr. Hodge.

I might have reported it to the Dallas police--I do that.

Mr. Hubert.

Let's put it this way: I understand from the conversations we had prior to the beginning of this interview that this interview does not contain the entire story?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

It does not contain the entire story of your participation in this matter, and I'm going to get that in just a moment by asking you to give the entire story as you gave it to me a moment ago, but this document as far as it goes, is correct, I take it?

Mr. Hodge.

Now, he didn't ask me, "Have they arrested you?" He didn't say that. He says, "What are you doing up here?"

Mr. Hubert.

I think perhaps if I question you, the differences between what this Exhibit No. 1 says and what your testimony is will become manifest, and to what extent your testimony differs from Exhibit No. 1, then of course Exhibit No. 1 will be in error, is that correct?

Mr. Hodge.

Well--

Mr. Hubert.

Suppose we do it this way: Let me question you and then we will talk a little while about Exhibit No. 1. What was your first contact with the entire matter of the assassination of President Kennedy?

Mr. Hodge.

When it came in over the radio that he had been killed with a 7-millimeter rifle, my wife and myself--we got our book and started checking to see who we had sold a 7-millimeter rifle to.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you sell a 7-millimeter rifle?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes; several of them--yes.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you first hear this report?

Mr. Hodge.

Oh, it must have been right after the---I don't even know what time it was it was right after dinner.

Mr. Hubert.

On the 22d of November, is that it?

Mr. Hodge.

I guess so.

Mr. Hubert.

It was right after the President was shot, I take it--some time right after?

Mr. Hodge.

That was the day he was shot.

Mr. Hubert.

You heard over the radio that he had been shot with a 7-milli-meter rifle?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you and your wife proceeded to check your records to see whether you had sold any such rifle to anyone?

Mr. Hodge.

And then I called the FBI and they came down. They sent an agent down and we showed him who we had sold them to, and I think later that afternoon another one came back and wanted to know who we sold the ammunition to, and I told him about three fellows that had uniforms on with a bread truck--uniforms, you know, and they took those descriptions and wasn't going to check into that.

Mr. Hubert.

What happened next?

Mr. Hodge.

Well, that night I went home that afternoon at 6 o'clock and Capt. Will Fritz called me and asked me to come if I could come by or he would send a squad car out and pick me up.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know Captain Fritz?

Mr. Hodge.

Oh, I know them all well.

Mr. Hubert.

What time was it that he called you?

Mr. Hodge.

It was approximately 11:30.

Mr. Hubert.

That night? That was 11:30 at night?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What did he want you to do?

Mr. Hodge.

Be wanted me to come down and look at the guns and see if I could identify them, or if I had ever seen them before.

Mr. Hubert.

I understand you to say that he offered to send a squad car for you?

Mr. Hodge.

Yes; and I told him I had to go down and close the bar down and