Mr. Griffin.

All right.
Now, Exhibit No. 2 is a letter addressed to "Dear Friend" dated April 30, 1964, and signed by Michael Levin, Chairman of the Jack Ruby Appeal Committee.
Members of the committee listed on the left-hand side are Michael Levin, Chairman, Marty Eritt, Blanca Fortgang, Elmer Gertz, Ann Osborne, Barney Ross.
Who is Blanca Fortgang?

Mr. Rubenstein.

I don't know, probably a friend of Mike Levin.

Mr. Griffin.

Who is Elmer Gertz?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Also the fellow who got the letter up and the ad up, a friend of Mike Levin.

Mr. Griffin.

Who is Ann Osborne?

Mr. Rubenstein.

I don't know who she is. I think she is the one who got the letter out and got the list of names that was submitted to Mike Levin, the 2,000 names that cost us $200.

Mr. Griffin.

Now were Fortgang, Gertz, and Osborne friends of your brother, did they know Jack?

Mr. Rubenstein.

No. I am almost positive that not one of those people even know Jack.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Mike, Michael Levin.

Mr. Rubenstein.

Mike is our family lawyer. Mike knew Jack ever since he was a kid.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Marty Eritt?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Marry Eritt I told you they probably went to school together and probably knew each other on the West Side.

Mr. Griffin.

Barney Ross?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Barney Ross he has known all his life.

Mr. Griffin.

What was your connection with the Jack Ruby Appeal Committee?

Mr. Rubenstein.

It was hard to get members names. A lot of people, business people, don't want to put their names on this kind of a committee. So I used my name, I said, "Mike, go ahead and use my name."
I had nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of. We needed money. Those trials are expensive, gentlemen.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was handling the funds for the defense?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Earl.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the money that was raised by the Jack Ruby Appeal Committee? Did Earl have anything to do with that?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Earl.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have anything to do with the raising of funds other than this letter and this advertisement?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Nothing outside of these two.

Mr. Griffin.

When was the first time that you talked with your brother Jack after the shooting?

Mr. Rubenstein.

I think it was down in Dallas. I believe it was down in Dallas when I was down there.

Mr. Griffin.

That was December sometime?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Yes, sir, either the 22d or the 23d of December is as close as I can get to it.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall seeing him on that occasion?
Mr. RUBENSTEIN, Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall how long you talked to him?

Mr. Rubenstein.

Quite a while. I think I was there with Eva, and who else was down there, Sammy.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you tell us what you said to him and what he said?

Mr. Rubenstein.

What did we talk about: Something about, this is the gist of it if I can remember right because I walked away thinking about it to myself that he loved the President and something happened to him, that he don't remember exactly what it was, and all that I remembered is the last time when he was down at the Western Union office when he wired that dancer of his $25