Mr. Fehrenbach.

There was a meeting that apparently had some significance because there were so many people coming in.

Mr. Griffin.

But that wasn't the meeting at which you found the list?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

But what makes you associate a meeting, a large meeting with Jack Ruby's or Jack Rubenstein's visit?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

Well, Jack, Seymour, and Charlotte came in that day, and then there was during the day, I don't know how many others had come in, and some of them like I say were from Ohio, some of them from Chicago, Indianapolis, Indiana, and various parts, all over, and there was so many people, I was--people I had never seen before. I wasn't introduced to anybody in any way, shape, or form that day but there was certainly a lot of them running in and out. And it seemed like everybody had to come in and say hello to Sam.
This is why I say apparently it must have been a large meeting.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, do you know, where the meeting was held?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

I assumed that it was held upstairs but I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

But you don't have any information as to where it was held?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Then you don't have any information that there was a meeting on this occasion?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

Outside of what they was talking about I mean when they came in, they said, why there was one fellow, what made me know the meeting was that night, they came in just as we was leaving, Jack Rubenstein and I was leaving, and Jack said something to him about what are you doing here and he said, well he says, I came to the meeting tonight, and this is why I know there was definitely a meeting that night.

Mr. Griffin.

What makes you remember your eating with him, your being with Jack Rubenstein after so many years, what makes you remember you. r being with him on this particular occasion?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

Well, I don't know. At the time he asked me to go to lunch with him, I was under the impression that he was something of a--I never really affiliated him with the Communist Party up until at that time, and what he was it was his business; it was none of mine. Like I say, I didn't think too much about it at that time. But because he asked me to go to lunch with high, I felt pretty important, this is why I remember.

Mr. Griffin.

At that point though did you associate him with the Communist Party?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

Well, I more or less, I suppose knew that he was because he was coming in with Seymour and all the rest of them.

Mr. Griffin.

You mean you thought he was?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

I thought he was but I wasn't sure. I had no actual knowledge. I mean they never said he was or he never said in any way anything concerning the Communist Party in any way, shape, or form to me and the only way I do connect him with it is like I say when I picked up the list.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ever talk with Seymour about the Communist Party?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

How many times did you talk with Seymour?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

I would assume almost every time that he came in.

Mr. Griffin.

So you talked with Seymour at least a dozen times?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

You wouldn't have any trouble picking out his picture, would you?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

No, I don't believe so. In fact, I think I have already identified his picture twice.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Fehrenbach.

I think Mr. Mullaney had some pictures of him. The only thing about it is I remember him as Charlotte's husband but I couldn't put his name on it, that Jasson was the one I couldn't remember.

Mr. Griffin.

When he showed you a single picture of Seymour were you able to identify that picture alone?

Mr. Fehrenbach.

There was one of them that I couldn't identify. He had him in, it seems to me he was in a bathing suit. There was one of them I