Mr. Hubert.

You had heard some people say he had a camera?

Mr. Cox.

Said he came in with the newsman.

Mr. Hubert.

Who did you hear that from?

Mr. Cox.

Just conversation. There was a lot of talk after that happened.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't recall any particular person that you got that from?

Mr. Cox.

No; sure don't. I told Captain Solomon about it after it happened, after that statement came out. I told him it wasn't true, right away.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you first learn that it was Ruby involved?

Mr. Cox.

When I was in the street. It was on the radio. I was still in the street when it came over the radio that someone had shot him, and then when I walked down into the basement after I left the street, someone said that Jack Ruby had shot Oswald. That is when I first knew it.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you first hear any, thing about a camera.

Mr. Cox.

In the basement. There were a lot of people gathered talking. a lot of officers. You know What I mean.

Mr. Hubert.

So in other words, the picture as I see it was that you picked up from somebody that there was a story that Ruby had come in as a newsman?

Mr. Cox.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And that statement was made to Kris?

Mr. Cox.

I was talking to Kris.

Mr. Hubert.

And this reporter overheard it and painted it in that way?

Mr. Cox.

That is exactly right.

Mr. Hubert.

When this came out, did you notice the incorrectness of it?

Mr. Cox.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you do anything about?

Mr. Cox.

I called Captain Solomon about it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you talk to Mr. Sherman, the reporter?

Mr. Cox.

No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

Now in this same story, which is a story dated November 25, appearing in the Times Herald by Joe Sherman, there is a further statement attributed to you which is actually a direct quote, according to Mr. Sherman, and reads as follows: "He must have had a press card with him, said Sergeant Cox. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been allowed in ,the basement at all. Our instructions were to keep everybody away but pressmen with proper identification." Now did you make that statement?

Mr. Cox.

Yes, sir; that's right.

Mr. Hubert.

In ether words, you were simply then not stating a fact, but an assumption that he .must have?

Mr. Cox.

That's right, because I couldn't see how he got in the basement.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you observe any security measures used to prevent entry into the basement?

Mr. Cox.

Yes, sir. I observed policemen on every door at the when I say the basement entrance, plus the entrance to the building through the basement. There was an entrance on Commerce Street where you walk down into a little hall.

Mr. Hubert.

There was a policeman stationed there?

Mr. Cox.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know who he was?

Mr. Cox.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Was he a reserve officer?

Mr. Cox.

No; a regular.

Mr. Hubert.

Who was stationed at the Commerce Street ramp entrance?

Mr. Cox.

I know one sergeant. His name is Mayo.

Mr. Hubert.

He is a reserve officer?

Mr. Cox.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Was he there throughout the morning?

Mr. Cox.

He was there when I got there. I believe his name is L. W. Mayo.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you observe any other policemen at other entrances such as Main Street?

Mr. Cox.

Not on the Main Street side.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't know anything about the security within the basement?