(Testimony of Breck Wall (Billy Wilson) Ray)
Mr. Wall.
No, sir; not at all.
Mr. Specter.
Did he mention anything about any assassin or the assassin whoever he might be?
Mr. Wall.
No sir. The only thing that he said which would be important to the Commission was that he was very upset that the other clubs had to stay open and that they did not have the decency to close on such a day and that he thought out of respect they should close. That is the only thing I recall that he said that would be of any importance. The other things were about his business with the union, how we were and why we went down to Galveston.
Mr. Specter.
Did he say anything about any intention he might have to do anything to Oswald?
Mr. Wall.
No, sir; not at all.
Mr. Specter.
Prior to that telephone call on the night of November 23, when was the last time you had talked to Ruby before that?
Mr. Wall.
It could have been 2 or 3 days before. I don't know, as I said, I saw him that often, you know. I do recall the last time I was in his club was the week before he shot Oswald.
Mr. Specter.
When were you in his club during that week?
Mr. Wall.
We had signed a contract to go into the Continental Hotel in Houston and we had the----
Mr. Specter.
By "we" you mean you and Joe Peterson?
Mr. Wall.
Right. Whenever I use "we" that is always Joe Peterson. And we had--the man who signed us felt pretty good about it and wanted to stay up beyond 12 o'clock, which is our curfew in Texas, and the only place that was open is the three exotic clubs and we decided to take Larry Grayson, booker of the Continental, to Jack Ruby's club and let him see a stripper called Jada.
Mr. Specter.
Weren't the exotic clubs governed by the curfew?
Mr. Wall.
No, sir; I'm sorry. The Theater Lounge and the Colony Club did close--I'm sorry. They didn't close. No; they didn't, You could serve a beer called near beer which did not contain any alcohol, or they would serve coffee. They did not have to close at the same time the others closed; so we took Larry and went over there and stayed up until around 2 or 3. I recall the incident, by the way, that Jack was having trouble with the union about.
Mr. Specter.
What incident was it?
Mr. Wall.
It was something about the comic had to perform in between each stripper to lengthen the time of the show and where he had lined up strippers at one time and then a comic and then three strippers again. He was having trouble with time. He wanted to make the show continuous and this was the problem he was having, so the night that I went to the Carousel Club with Larry Grayson and Joe Peterson he, himself, got on stage and entertained for 30 minutes with a raffle and I recall that Larry turned to me and said--every time that Jack would do something he would try and be very funny---every time he would do something he would turn to me and say, "Is that all right, Breck?" and Larry turned to me and said, "He thinks a great deal of you. Every time he does anything he turns to you," and I said, "Yes." I definitely remember that. That was the problem of trying to make----
Mr. Specter.
What night was that?
Mr. Wall.
It was at least a week before, maybe not--maybe not quite a week.
Mr. Specter.
Can you recall the specific night that was?
Mr. Wall.
No, sir; I can't.
Mr. Specter.
Prior to that time when had you last seen Ruby?
Mr. Wall.
I really don't know, sir. I don't think probably I saw him at all until after the President had been shot.
Mr. Specter.
Now, I'm going back, before the time you said you had this conversation with him on that Saturday night when you were in Galveston. You saw Jack Ruby at the Carousel Club some time about a week before the assassination?
Mr. Wall.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter.
When, prior to the time you were in the Carousel Club a week before the assassination, had you last seen Jack Ruby?
Mr. Wall.
Possibly on the street or something. I had gone up to the club a week or two before that.
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