Mr. Specter.

Had you discussed this problem concerning the American Guild of Variety Artists with Jack Ruby prior to that telephone conversation on November 23?

Mr. Wall.

Yes, sir; I had.

Mr. Specter.

When had you discussed it with him before?

Mr. Wall.

He had called me----

Mr. Specter.

When was that?

Mr. Wall.

Possibly 2 weeks before the assassination--telling me his problem and wanting to know when it would be brought up at the meeting, and I told him that we usually met the 15th of each month and that at the next meeting I would--I'm sorry. I made an error. We meet every Thursday. Every Thursday there was a union ,netting and the 15th is when we meet privately, I think.

Mr. Specter.

Did you have an official capacity with the union, that is, were you an officer?

Mr. Wall.

Well, I was an officer as being elected the president of the inter-union. In other words, all the performers, if there was a complaint that some performer had done something wrong and the management said that he was right and the performer said that they were fight, then the performers themselves elected a committee of about six that would determine who was right, and this was the committee and I really don't even know the correct name of the committee. They would judge who was right and wrong and what would be done about it.

Mr. Specter.

Did you have any official standing on the committee which was to take up Jack Ruby's problem?

Mr. Wall.

I don't understand what you mean.

Mr. Specter.

Were you responsible in any official way for the committee which was to consider the problem Jack Ruby had with the guild?

Mr. Wall.

My capacity was to make sure that everything was presented correctly and this was the only thing that Jack was after me to do is to make sure his side of the story was heard.

Mr. Specter.

Was it up to you to make the decision on who was right and who was wrong?

Mr. Wall.

It was up to the committee, six members.

Mr. Specter.

You were one of the members of the committee?

Mr. Wall.

Right.

Mr. Specter.

Now, when did Jack Ruby first discuss his problem with you?

Mr. Wall.

I would say around 2 weeks before the assassination.

Mr. Specter.

When did he next discuss the problem with you?

Mr. Wall.

He called me a couple of times to see if we had had a meeting or not. He would call and I would tell him; no.

Mr. Specter.

Was that by telephone?

Mr. Wall.

Yes, sir; he would call me at the hotel.

Mr. Specter.

And how many times did ,he call you after he first discussed it with you approximately 2 weeks before the assassination?

Mr. Wall.

I would say about two times.

Mr. Specter.

When did he make those telephone calls to you?

Mr. Wall.

In the afternoon.

Mr. Specter.

Approximately how long before the assassination were those calls made?

Mr. Wall.

Well, the last one was the Saturday night, midnight the last call came, that was the main reason he was calling me was to find out if we had had a meeting.

Mr. Specter.

Did he call you once or twice between the first time he talked to you about the guild problem and the time he called you in Galveston?

Mr. Wall.

About twice.

Mr. Specter.

When did those two telephone calls occur, to the best of your recollection?

Mr. Wall.

In the afternoon. That was the only time to get me.

Mr. Specter.

What dates?

Mr. Wall.

I can't recall any dates.

Mr. Specter.

Did you discuss any thing else in any of those two telephone calls other than the specific problem with the guild?