(Testimony of Jack L. Ruby)
Mr. Specter.
stated position of the Commission that it does not request such an but has made such an examination available to Mr. Ruby if he wants one, pursuant to his request to have such an examination, made during the course of Commission proceedings on June 7, 1964, and the response by Chief Justice Warren that the Commission would offer him such a polygraph examination in response to his repeated requests.
Mr. Fowler.
Now, I would like to answer regarding the presence of a deputy sheriff here. I believe you advanced the theory that it was thought by Mr. Decker that there might be something that might occur during the giving of the polygraph tests that perhaps might disrupt things.
We further feel and respectfully request that if there is this feeling by the polygraph operator himself, that he will be conducting this test some 10 or 12 feet from a door, and if the sheriff is allowed at all, that he be allowed to stand at the door and any other exit that might be in the building, to not be able to view the chart or any part of it. This would be our request to that.
Mr. Specter.
The conditions set forth in your request will be granted and the sheriff's custodian will be present at the door so that he may not have access to the chart, to insure the confidential nature of these proceedings.
I think we are now ready to have Mr. Ruby come in, but before he comes in, let's take a 5-minute recess.
Let the record show we are taking a 5-minute recess.
(Proceedings recessed and resumed as stated.)
Mr. Alexander.
I assume that once Jack is brought in, there will be complete silence.
Mr. Specter.
Yes. Mr. Alexander, do you want to make your request for the record?
Mr. Alexander.
Yes; please. At this time for and on behalf of the Dallas County, Tex., district attorney's office, a request is made that the Warren Commission furnish the district attorney's office a list of the questions asked Jack Ruby in this polygraph examination, and that a copy of the recording made by the polygraph machine be furnished the Dallas County district attorney's office. We would also like a copy of the interpretation of the test, but whether or not we are given an interpretation of the test, we do want the aforementioned questions and actual tape of the polygraph machine.
Mr. Specter.
Mr. Fowler, you may want to make a similar request as to the results.
Mr. Fowler.
In behalf of Jack Ruby and as attorney for Jack Ruby, I respectfully request that the Warren Commission deny the request of the Dallas district attorney's office for the following reasons: Number One--that this is a matter of request that has been made by Mr. Ruby to the Warren Commission only, that if the district attorney's office were furnished with these questions and answers and any other matters pertaining to the giving of this polygraph test, it might and could and very well effect the outcome of his case that is now on appeal before the court of criminal appeals here in the State of Texas, and we respectfully request that the request by the district attorney's office be denied by the Warren Commission in all of their requests for this information.
On the other hand, we who represent Jack Ruby, respectfully request that we be furnished a copy of the questions that will be asked and that if some determination is made as to the answers and the outcome is ever made public, that we be furnished the information of the outcome of the tests.
Now, this is off the record.
(Statement by Mr. Fowler to Mr. Specter, off the record, requesting that Mr. Ruby be advised again when brought into the room for the test, the requests of his attorneys and family with respect to taking the test.)
Mr. Specter.
In response to those two statements, no commitment can be made on behalf of the Commission anticipating the action of the Commission in advance of knowledge by the Commission of the results of the tests, and any additional evidence which may be submitted on the competency of Mr. Ruby which may aid the Commission in the evaluation of the results of the polygraph examination. The requests of Mr. Alexander and Mr. Fowler will be transmitted
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