Mr. Hubert.

got here he had approximately $14,000 in cash, that is to say, when he came to Dallas?

Mr. Ruby.

Well----

Mr. Hubert.

Let me put it this way--you knew he had the $14,000--you don't know whether he had any debts or anything that would have consumed that $14,000, is that what you are saying?

Mr. Ruby.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, when did you move to Dallas?

Mr. Ruby.

In 1955--I moved here in July 1955.

Mr. Hubert.

And what was the occasion for your coming here?

Mr. Ruby.

I sold out to my brother Earl in March of 1955 and at that time my youngest boy, Brian, had a little asthma difficulty and my sister Eva, who was residing in Chicago at the time, suggested that I come to Dallas and look into the building of homes in Dallas. She had some friends who were in the business of building homes, and I did build one residence in Oak Cliff, that is part of Dallas, in association with this lady friend of hers, and subsequently this woman I built the home with, she liked the home so well she bought it from me and I realized at the time that these building tradesmen here were kind of hard to get along with. In other words, they--some of them would drink on the job and material would be missing from the job and I thought I would rather get into something else that I was more familiar with.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, as I understand it, then, after you sold your interest to Earl, you made the decision to move to Dallas on a permanent basis?

Mr. Ruby.

I came down here for a visit first.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you decide to make this your home .to make Dallas your home?

Mr. Ruby.

After I sold out the company to Earl in March, I came down here in April.

Mr. Hubert.

IS that what you considered to be your permanent move to Dallas--in April?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, I came down here for a visit and I decided I liked Dallas very much and I went back up north and, of course, at that time I was in the business of building this home and I told my wife---I called her on the phone and told her that we are going to move to Dallas and I went up there in the latter part of June and helped pack our furnishings and belongings and had them moved down here by truck.

Mr. Hubert.

You had already finished building the home here you were talking about?

Mr. Ruby.

No; I was in the process of building it.

Mr. Hubert.

After you moved down here and that was in the summer of 1955, as I understand you, and after you had finished this building venture which you decided you didn't want to continue in, what business did you go into by way of making a living?

Mr. Ruby.

I went into---it was also the advertising specialty business---then with two fellows who were at that time engaged in it. They had a company under the trade name of Atlas American Specialties Co., I believe.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the name of the two men you are speaking of?

Mr. Ruby.

One was Sam Lasser (spelling) L-a-s-s-e-r, and the other fellow was named Norman Weisbrod.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you have covered those transactions in your statements.

Mr. Ruby.

I believe I have I don't think they asked me those questions, although I did mention that they were friends of Jack's.

Mr. Hubert.

But you actually were business partners with them?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did that last?

Mr. Ruby.

That lasted until June 1956.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, what was the occasion of breaking that up, or what happened?

Mr. Ruby.

We manufactured a product that wasn't engineered or designed properly and we had a lot of rejects and we were having to pay freight both ways and----