Mrs. Grant.

It seems to me he may have been in with Jack and maybe even--you see, there was a time he may have even taken over--Jack let him take over the Silver Spur and Jack went into a business called--the club--does it say Bob Wills' Ranch House there, something like that, anything about Bob Wills' Ranch House?

Mr. Hubert.

No, ma'am. Did he have some interest in that?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes, and it's here in town--it's not that name any more. Jack, I think, leased or sold the Silver Spur to Marry and it was Marty that was running the club and Jack was running the Bob Wills' Ranch House with somebody else oh, yes, I know the guy-- Hyman Fader, or something like that.

Mr. Hubert.

Isn't it a fact that for the last 2 or 3 years you have operated the Vegas Club for Jack?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes, three and a half years.

Mr. Hubert.

And you have been, I take it, on a salaried basis?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

You have no ownership in the club, though, I take it?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

But did you have complete management and control?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, let me put it this way every week I would give him--like if I would have $800 and he said he needed $600 to pay bills or $400, he would take it. I make the payroll, I pay the bills and I didn't go to the Federal to pay the taxes.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, let me put it this way--you used your gross receipts, I suppose, to pay the running expenses?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right, and when he would take any money, he would take a lump; you know what I mean, 400 or 500, not if he made 2 1/4, did he take 2 1/4.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you keep any books on the transactions?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, yes--what is his name Abe Kleinman---of course, I don't have them--I have some of the things, but Abe Kleinman was the accountant.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't own the land or the building of the Vegas Club?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, no--no.

Mr. Hubert.

How much rent was paid; do you know?

Mrs. Grant.

500---since I'm there.

Mr. Hubert.

$500 a month?

Mrs. Grant.

$500 a month, but I think the first year that I was there, I think it was only 400 and something.

Mr. Hubert.

All of the help, I take it, was paid in cash?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes, but everyone who signed checks. You know--I would make out a check--I would take out their withholding and social security and put it right on it.

Mr. Hubert.

You used a bank then for the operation of the Vegas Club?

Mrs. Grant.

We had a bank account.

Mr. Hubert.

But did you pay salaries and other expenses?

Mrs. Grant.

I paid the band and I paid the bartender and I paid a floorman.

Mr. Hubert.

What bank was that with?

Mrs. Grant.

The Merchants' State Bank.

Mr. Hubert.

You had a checking account there?

Mrs. Grant.

No, I didn't. He did. But what I mean is, the checks didn't go through the bank. We just let them sign a check like a receipt, but everything was on it--their names, their withholding and their social security.

Mr. Hubert.

That's what I was trying to get at--the Vegas Club or Jack Ruby or you, yourself, for the operation of the Vegas Club, did not have an active checking account in which money received was deposited and expenses paid out?

Mrs. Grant.

He deposited the money every week, but it was like a round figure, like 200. I paid for the gas, I paid the telephone and lights and water bill on checks. I bought all the merchandise on cash and we have receipts. He paid the rent.

Mr. Hubert.

And you paid the employees by cash, too?

Mrs. Grant.

The bartender, and the band and the floorman. The waitresses worked on tips.