Mr. Hubert.

He sold or closed the Singapore Supper Club?

Mrs. Grant.

He changed the name to the Silver Spur because that name would fit better in that area.

Mr. Hubert.

And did you have an interest in the Silver Spur?

Mrs. Grant.

He sent me some money when I was broke or sick or I didn't work or the weather was too hot.

Mr. Hubert.

But you didn't have any financial interest in the Singapore Club?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, I put in money because I made money in the brokerage business. Every time I made money, I would throw it back in--I put it back in.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, what was the arrangement between you and Jack as to the ownership of the Silver Spur?

Mr. Hubert.

Half and half?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes; but there was never any half and half. I can't explain it. He was there and things were so bad, we were lucky we were eating. That's one of the reasons I left and went out to the west coast on the road with the fishing tackle.

Mr. Hubert.

And you stayed away from Dallas as I understand it, until approximately 1959, wasn't it?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, no; I was here lots of times.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I understand that, but I mean--you didn't come back here to live on a permanent basis?

Mrs. Grant.

I was here I was here the next year--the year after that, and I stayed 2 years and he got involved with another club that a fellow wanting to sell it and it was called Hernando's Hideaway and I think was in 1952 or 1953, and by then---Jack always had his hands in two or three places--whether they are making money or not, and I ran this other club, if I remember, and then I ran the Vegas Club for a while.

Mr. Hubert.

But you came back to Dallas, so that it was on a permanent basis, in what year?

Mrs. Grant.

I don't know how long I was here then.

Mr. Hubert.

But I think you mentioned a little while ago that you haven't been out of town-out of this town for 4 or 5 years?

Mrs. Grant.

Now, I am here 4 years constantly.

Mr. Hubert.

That's what I am talking about.

Mrs. Grant.

But this time I was gone about a year and a half or 2, but I have been back here, but I didn't come to stay.

Mr. Hubert.

That's what I understand, so that during the period from 1948 to roughly 1958, a period of 10 years, you were in and out of Dallas, of course?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Hubert.

But, you didn't have any connection with any of Jack's operations here?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, in the early fifties when I came, I worked at the Vegas Club and as I said, I ran this Hernando's Hideaway.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know the circumstances of Jack's acquisition of the Vegas Club?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Could you tell us briefly how that came about?

Mrs. Grant.

I know this, that he sold the other club--I may be wrong--for $4,500. I don't know the exact amount--but I have an idea it was around $4,500 and he bought this club with a couple other fellows.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know them?

Mrs. Grant.

I never met them--I know I heard the name Joe Bonds--I never saw him in my life. Maybe if I saw him I didn't know it was him. When I came he was in jail.

Mr. Hubert.

What about Martin Gimpel or Marty Gimpel?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, Marry, may he rest in peace, is a real nice guy.

Mr. Hubert.

He's dead now, isn't he?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes--he worked for the Post Office.

Mr. Hubert.

He has been dead some time?

Mrs. Grant.

Not over 2 1/2 years.

Mr. Hubert.

Was he in the Vegas Club?