Mrs. Grant.

Okay: We lived in a block where the houses have two-story buildings. In one block between the both sides I will say there was 150 children between the ages of 4 and 15, because these families have large groups and most of the families have 6 children or 8 and some of them had 12.

Mr. Hubert.

You are familiar with the modern term "a slum neighborhood," would you characterize it like that?

Mrs. Grant.

Not really a slum because those who had more money next door lived better, but there were worse neighborhoods. I don't know how much worse.
I admit to you often we talked about it. I don't say the middle class people lived there. It was below the middle class, but yet it wasn't the poorest class.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you marry, Mrs. Grant?

Mrs. Grant.

I married March 30, 1930, to Hyman Magid in Chicago.

Mr. Hubert.

And I think there was a child born of this marriage?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, yes; that's Ronnie Magid.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, that child is what age?

Mrs. Grant.

He will be 33 next month.

Mr. Hubert.

And you were divorced from Mr. Magid?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes; I was.

Mr. Hubert.

What year?

Mrs. Grant.

I think it was 1934 in Chicago.

Mr. Hubert.

What was Mr. Magid's, your husband's, occupation?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, you really want to know--that's a catchy question. He went into business with his father and his father owned a meat market, but that was later on. He really took up---he was a college graduate and he did electrical work, but he never worked at it. He didn't adapt himself to it for some reason or other.

Mr. Hubert.

What did he do for a living, then?

Mrs. Grant.

As far as I know he was a butcher.

Mr. Hubert.

No; I mean at that time.

Mrs. Grant.

He went to school when I married him and after that he worked with his father.

Mr. Hubert.

In a butcher shop?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right, it was during the depression.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you live during the time of your marriage?

Mrs. Grant.

I lived with my mother-in-law on Kolin Avenue.

Mr. Hubert.

In Chicago?

Mr. Grant.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, after your divorce, I think you went to the west coast, is that correct?

Mrs. Grant.

Jack went there first.

Mr. Hubert.

What year was that?

Mrs. Grant.

I think it was in 1934 in January, I mean, it seems to me it was that year.

Mr. Hubert.

You had been divorced?

Mrs. Grant.

That's when he went there. I didn't go there until later.

Mr. Hubert.

Jack went first?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes, he did.

Mr. Hubert.

And he must have been a man about 21 or 22 at that time?

Mrs. Grant.

It could be.

Mr. Hubert.

This was in 1934?

Mrs. Grant.

Don't hold me to 1934 or 1935. I'm so confused. I know it was either one of the years, and he went there fight after the first of the year, and I followed 6 months later.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know why he went there?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes, he went to work. There was no work in Chicago and there was boys out there that said there was jobs--that there was a lot of jobs available in San Francisco.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you live with him when you went out?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, yes--yes, I did; we occupied an apartment.

Mr. Hubert.

It was you and Jack and your son?

Mrs. Grant.

My son--I put him in a private school and Jack helped me pay for him.