Mr. Ruby.

I don't think so; not the first day.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, at the meeting at Mr. Belli's house, did you discuss the biography of your brother?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

What discussion took place there?

Mr. Ruby.

Just the general discussion that Woodfield would do the writing of it. That is about all. And a figure did come up of how much could be raised through the story, through the selling of the story.

Mr. Griffin.

What was the speculation at that time?

Mr. Ruby.

That is what I said, you know, the same figure.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did your meeting at Mr. Belli's home last?

Mr. Ruby.

I would say at least an hour.

Mr. Griffin.

How much of the time at Mr. Belli's house was spent discussing the sale of the biography or the life story?

Mr. Ruby.

Probably 10 minutes altogether.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you finished----

Mr. Ruby.

Excuse me, would you want to know who else was present there?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; I would.

Mr. Ruby.

Sam Brody, one of his associates in L.A., another attorney, who was in the case for a while but if you will recall he stepped out, and Woodfield's wife, yes, Woodfield's wife, I don't remember her name----

Mr. Griffin.

Was Mike Shore there?

Mr. Ruby.

No; I don't think so. No; I am quite sure he wasn't.

Mr. Griffin.

When that meeting ended there, had there been an agreement----

Mr. Ruby.

Excuse me a minute.
I am trying to think if Mike Shore was there. I don't place him there. I am not sure he was there. I can't say yes or no to that question.

Mr. Griffin.

He might have been there but you are not sure, is that your answer, or is your original answer that he wasn't there still your best impression.

Mr. Ruby.

If my recollection is correct, I think he just met Belli and then left. He had an appointment or something but I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

What was the conclusion of your talk at that point as to whether Belli would represent Jack.

Mr. Ruby.

It wasn't definite yet. We talked about lawyers and he mentioned what he thinks we ought to do, and psychiatrists we might need--and different things that--he mentioned he would bring in Tonahill. He worked with Tonahill before.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that the first time Tonahill's name was mentioned?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did you remain in Los Angeles that night?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; I think I was there that night.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you there the next day?

Mr. Ruby.

I think I left the next--about noon of the next day if I am not mistaken.

Mr. Griffin.

When you left Los Angeles what arrangements had been made with respect to the autobiography or the life story of Jack?

Mr. Ruby.

Nothing really definite.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Woodfield ultimately write the story that you are talking about?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And----

Mr. Ruby.

He came down to Dallas later.

Mr. Griffin.

Where was that published, that story? Just tell us generally.

Mr. Ruby.

Well, they offered it for sale to foreign countries, publications in foreign countries, and also here through the newspapers, through a sales organization that handles that, I think, out of New York.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that life story serialized in a number of newspapers throughout the country?

Mr. Ruby.

When you say serialized, I don't understand what you mean.

Mr. Griffin.

It was published over a period of days.

Mr. Ruby.

Yes, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did it appear in any national magazines?