Mr. Griffin.

Was he friendly with Jack?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know, because I have only seen the man one time in my life, and the time that I saw him I was introduced to him, not knowing Who he was, down at the courthouse, at the courthouse.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that at the trial or the bail bond hearing, or something like that?

Mr. Senator.

It was at this trial here, in the lobby.

Mr. Griffin.

The Ruby trial?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I saw him in the lobby once. That is the only time I ever seen the man.

Mr. Griffin.

But you had never seen him before?

Mr. Senator.

No; I had never seen him.

Mr. Griffin.

And you had never heard Jack speak of him?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I have heard the name.

Mr. Griffin.

How had you heard Jack speak of him?

Mr. Senator.

Jack has asked me to call him.

Mr. Griffin.

In what connection?

Mr. Senator.

There was somebody, there were a couple of people owed Jack some money, and he asked me to ask Cecil to see if Cecil would call them to get the money or pick up the money. He had a couple of hundred dollars out, and he wanted to ask him if he would be kind enough to collect it for him or try to collect it for him, or call them up, or something of that nature. I don't know the rest of them. Page 10.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recognize any of the names on page 10?

Mr. Senator.

I think he had a stripper, a part-time stripper, at one time, I am not sure. Of course, I don't know if this is, but this says Grapevine.

Mr. Griffin.

Grapevine, Tex.?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; but I don't know. A girl by the name of Linda, but I never knew her last name, so I don't know if this is her or not.

Mr. Griffin.

Page 11.

Mr. Senator.

I don't know who this is. I have seen this name before on other pages, Jeanie. I don't know what that is.

Mr. Griffin.

Page 12.

Mr. Senator.

I don't know who that is.

Mr. Griffin.

Page 13.

Mr. Senator.

Latin Band, is that what that says?

Mr. Griffin.

It looks like that.

Mr. Senator.

I am thinking of Larry, the kid who works at the club, but what would the Latin Band be? I don't know who that is. I don't know who this is.

Mr. Griffin.

Page 14.

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Page 15.

Mr. Senator.

I don't know who that is.

Mr. Griffin.

This doesn't have a page number.

Mr. Senator.

This is a repeat of the other.

Mr. Griffin.

A duplicate of the previous page?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't say it is a duplicate of the page, but the name.

Mr. Griffin.

Let's read the name so that the record is complete. Pat Sancipian, Patricia Stevens. Xavier Cugat?

Mr. Senator.

I know the name. Who don't know it?

Mr. Griffin.

Jack never talked to you about him?

Mr. Senator.

No; where he got it, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Turning to another page, which doesn't have a number on it, Sam Schwartz.

Mr. Senator.

I don't know who that is.

Mr. Griffin.

Robyn Hoy Smith, Tom Teel?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know who that is.

Mr. Griffin.

And turning to the last page, which is numbered 20, it simply says Elizabeth. You don't recognize that name?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to hand you another book that is marked Exhibit 5202, which was used in the deposition of C. L. Crafard, and it is a blue spiral