Now, where she is singing I don't know. I don't know if that is her name, but I know there was a girl by the name of Brown.. I don't know if it was Thelma Brown, Bertha Brown, or whatever it is. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recognize any other names on page 3?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Turn to page 4 and tell us if you recognize any of the names there.

Mr. Senator.

No. There is only one other name there.

Mr. Griffin.

Turn to the, next page. Is that page 5?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; and I don't know who that is. It is just one name.

Mr. Griffin.

What name is that?

Mr. Senator.

Bill Capehart. I don't know who that is.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you want to turn to page 6?

Mr. Senator.

Bob Eisman.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recognize that name?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't know who he is. There is nothing else but the name.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Do you want to turn to the next page, page 7. Do you recognize that name, Ham Faust?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Page 8; do you recognize the name there?

Mr. Senator.

This boy here, he is resting in peace.

Mr. Griffin.

Martin Gimpel?

Mr. Senator.

He died of a heart attack.

Mr. Griffin.

When did he die?

Mr. Senator.

He died, I would say, I would probably say a year and a half ago, which tore Jack apart because they were kids together all their life.

Mr. Griffin.

From Chicago?

Mr. Senator.

Yes. He has been gone now about a year and a half, maybe 2 years, I am not sure, something like that. Now, the other name I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Ann Gibson. What was Jack's relationship in Dallas with Mr. Gimpel?

Mr. Senator.

He was a tool salesman. He traveled. He sold tools. Now, I have never seen him sell them.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know what kind of tools, household tools or industrial tools?

Mr. Senator.

No. I think they were industrial tools. To my knowledge, I think that is what it was.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Mr. Gimpel have a family in Dallas?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Was he single?

Mr. Senator.

When he came here, he didn't always stay here. I mean, I haven't known him that long, when I met him, but when he was here, I don't know how long he stayed. He stayed, and traveled. But in this area, or rather in the Dallas area, or wherever he was traveling, I don't know if it was in the State of Texas or out of it, or just where he traveled. Of course, he stayed with Jack because he didn't pay no rent.

Mr. Griffin.

Jack supported him?

Mr. Senator.

Jack, you know.

Mr. Griffin.

Page 9.

Mr. Senator.

There is a name here that I think is an entertainer. I am not sure, Trinidad, Colo. Wait a minute; that is Trinidad, Colo., but I knew somebody by the name of Trinidad. There was an entertainer. Cecil Hamlin.

Mr. Griffin.

Who is he?

Mr. Senator.

He is with the union. Now, what capacity or what, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Which union?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know which union.