Mr. Senator.

Yes, he is a married man. He is the one who also was on the Ruby Case for a while.

Mr. Griffin.

Where are his offices located?

Mr. Senator.

On Main Street. As a matter of fact he just moved recently. He was on Main Street, and he is still on Main Street, but the lower part of town in what they call the Lawyers' Building.

Mr. Griffin.

Are you accustomed to visiting at his home?

Mr. Senator.

I go to his home once in a while, yes. I have eaten dinner at his home or I have went up there and cooked for him once in a while.

Mr. Griffin.

How long have you known Mr. Martin?

Mr. Senator.

I would say roughly around 2 or 3 years I guess, something like that.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you happen to meet him?

Mr. Senator.

I think I met him through a friend of mine one day, if I member right. I think we were having a cocktail one day in the Burgundy Room. I think this is how I met him. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Has he represented you in any legal matters?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Is he a friend of Jack Ruby?

Mr. Senator.

He knows Jack. I believe all the lawyers in Dallas know Jack.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall if you visited in the area where the President was shot, on Saturday?

Mr. Senator.

What?

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall if you visited in the area where the President was shot?

Mr. Senator.

Was I down there?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Senator.

No. I drove by. I mean I didn't stop. I drove by there.

Mr. Griffin.

Are there any errands or chores or anything that you customarily do on Saturday?

Mr. Senator.

No, nothing in particular, no. I will tell you Saturday I just don't like to work. I just don't like to do anything particular, you know. Of course, I would say that, of course, Saturday is a wash day. It is not that I wash every Saturday, you know, or launderette day. I do my own.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you do Jack's also?

Mr. Senator.

No. Jack doesn't even do his own. He sends them out, but I do my own.

Mr. Griffin.

Where do you do your laundry?

Mr. Senator.

Downstairs in the apartment. There is a couple of washers, two or three washers, and a couple dryers right in the apartment. It is like these machines similar to the store like.

Mr. Griffin.

Does Jack use those? Did Jack use those?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he have some particular place he sent his laundry?

Mr. Senator.

He takes it out and has somebody do it for him.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know where that was?

Mr. Senator.

I was there one time with him when he was picking up his laundry. If I am not mistaken, I think it was on the McKinney or Fitzhugh, Fitzhugh or McKinney. I think it was somewhere up in that neighborhood. But Jack, he takes his laundry and sends it to this place. He takes it over. But instead of him doing it, he has a girl do it for him, and they straighten it out for him when it dries up and all that there. Then he will come back and pick it up. If he don't pick it up one day he will pick it up the next.

Mr. Griffin.

He takes it over to this laundry?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

The girl does it for him at the laundry?

Mr. Senator.

She does it with the soap and powder and all that. They have girls over there, a couple colored girls.

Mr. Griffin.

This would ordinarily be a self-service Laundromat?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

But there are people there so that if you don't want to serve yourself they will do it for you?