Mr. Hubert.

your waking up and moving around the house and so forth wakened him. How long did you stay around the house?

Mr. Senator.

Saturday morning you are referring to?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; after awakening.

Mr. Senator.

Saturday morning I must have left, as a guess, mind you, somewhere around, maybe somewhere between 11:30 and 12:30. Of course, I am only guessing. I could be a half hour off or I might be an hour off.

Mr. Hubert.

That is to say that you stayed around the house anywhere from 1 hour to 2 hours after you awakened?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I would probably say that.

Mr. Hubert.

And during most of that time Jack was awake and up, too?

Mr. Senator.

Yes. He awoke after.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you recall the substance of the conversations between you during that period of either 1 hour or 2 hours or something in between?

Mr. Senator.

Well, we watched TV a bit, and he had mentioned--of course, he wasn't feeling good when he woke up---he had mentioned the fact, he sort of rehashed the President and the kids all the time, how sorry he felt for them and how a great man like President Kennedy could have been shot. He thought this was a terrible thing to happen. Many a time he went through this how sorry he felt for the kids and Mrs. Kennedy, a poor tragic thing like this to happen to them.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you that he had decided to close the clubs?

Mr. Senator.

No. I wasn't with him. That was Friday night.

Mr. Hubert.

I understand that, but I mean by Saturday morning, we are speaking of the conversations of Saturday morning.

Mr. Senator.

No; this I already knew.

Mr. Hubert.

You already knew?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you find that out?

Mr. Senator.

Friday night.

Mr. Hubert.

Who told you?

Mr. Senator.

The ad in the paper.

Mr. Hubert.

That is how you first saw it?

Mr. Senator.

That is how I knew. That was an ad at the same time----

Mr. Hubert.

Did you discuss with him, at any time, either on Friday night or Saturday morning, the fact that he had closed the clubs, and the reason therefor?

Mr. Senator.

He told me why he closed the club. He put this in heavy black, in heavy black block, that the Carousel will be closed Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, because he thought it was a terrible thing for anybody to be dancing and entertaining or drinking of that nature there at a time such as this.

Mr. Hubert.

You say that he put an ad in the paper Friday night that the club would be closed for 3 days?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know what time because I assume he put it in sometime Friday afternoon.

Mr. Hubert.

But the first time you saw the notice about the closing of the clubs, there was an announcement that the club would be closed for 3 days?

Mr. Senator.

Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, I mean Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. That is the way the ad ran.

Mr. Hubert.

And you saw that on Friday night before going to sleep?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever talk to him about it?

Mr. Senator.

About the ad?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Senator.

Being closed?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Senator.

I told him that I read it.

Mr. Hubert.

And what was his comment, or query?

Mr. Senator.

He was hoping that everybody else would close. He was hoping that the two other strip joints would close when they read his ad, because he didn't feel they should be open on account of the simple reason of the tragedy