Mr. Hubert.

any way that his thinking associated the assassination of the President with the posting of the Warren poster and publication of the ad, or rather whether he was simply associating the fact of the publication of the ad and the posting of the poster with communism, and so forth.

Mr. Senator.

To my belief I think he was trying to associate the ad and the poster with the Communist Party or the John Birch Society.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not gather from what he said that he associated the death of the President to the Birch Society or the Communists or any other group?

Mr. Senator.

Not at the time that we were talking; rather, he was talking about the signs.

Mr. Hubert.

That is, the poster and the ad?

Mr. Senator.

The poster and the ad.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you all talked to anybody else in the coffeehouse, in the coffeeshop?

Mr. Senator.

No. I don't think there was anybody in there at that time outside of, I think, a cashier and probably a waitress.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you recall whether he made any comment to the cashier or the waitress?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Larry have any comment to make that you recall?

Mr. Senator.

I just don't remember if he had any or not.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, now, when Ruby stated what you said he stated concerning the poster, and so forth, did you have any comment to make about it?

Mr. Senator.

Well, nothing compared to him. Of course, after I heard him mention it, then I sort of wondered also why an ad like that would be put in the paper, or why anybody would want to impeach Justice Earl Warren. What did it mean?

Mr. Hubert.

Jack had taken the pictures and he had gone to the post office to check on the box. Did he state what he intended to do further?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Then you tried to calm him down?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it your impression that his state was that he should be spoken to by a friend and calmed down?

Mr. Senator.

Well, I don't know. It is hard for me to say these things. Who would really know?

Mr. Hubert.

But in any case you didn't argue with him about his view?

Mr. Senator.

No. I don't argue with him at any time.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not state a concurring view, I take it?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Or an opposing view?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Nor did Larry?

Mr. Senator.

Larry I can't speak for because I just don't remember.

Mr. Hubert.

And you don't remember whether Ruby spoke to anybody else or anyone else spoke to him?

Mr. Senator.

Not to my knowledge.

Mr. Hubert.

Then what did you all do next?

Mr. Griffin.

Before you go on, did Jack indicate what he was going to do with the photographs that he took?

Mr. Senator.

No. He just took them and he never said what he was going to do with them. Of course, I know what the windup was with them later on.

Mr. Griffin.

What was that?

Mr. Senator.

Well, I believe the local policemen got them after the shooting when they searched him, took his money and his papers, and all of that, and I believe those pictures were with it.

Mr. Griffin.

When you----

Mr. Senator.

At least I assumed the pictures were with him.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall where this sign was located? When you rode out there in the car, do you recall any conversation you had with him, out to the sign?