Mr. Hubert.

I don't mean his words, you understand, his exact words, but the meaning, the thoughts expressed.

Mr. Senator.

Yes; the thoughts. He can't understand it. It is so penetrated in his mind he can’t understand why somebody would want to do something like this.

Mr. Hubert.

The ad had nothing to do with killing the President?

Mr. Senator.

No; but he couldn't understand why an ad like this should break out, about this ad. Another thing he couldn't understand why in the world would they want to impeach Justice Earl Warren. Incidentally, that sign come out of Massachusetts, that billboard.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it your impression that Ruby was putting the three instances together as being connected in some way; to wit: the death of the President, the impeach Earl Warren sign, and the Weissman ad? Was he seeming to do that?

Mr. Senator.

He was seeming to do at that time he was seeming to do with the impeachment of Earl Warren, and the Weissman sign; he couldn't understand why these things were of a nature--I don't know how long this billboard has been out. I don't know if it has been a day, two, or what it was, and then the ad break out the same day that President Kennedy was coming in. He wanted to know the whys.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, as I understand you, you gathered that was running through his mind, was why the ad, and the poster, appeared at the same time as the visit of the President; is that correct?

Mr. Senator.

I would probably say it is something of that nature, I guess.

Mr. Hubert.

I want to distinguish that, if possible, from another situation, and that is whether or not you gathered that he was disposed to place the killing of the President together with the poster and the ad.

Mr. Senator.

Run that again.

Mr. Hubert.

From what you could gather from his attitude, from what he said and how he acted, do you think it was running through his mind that there was a connection between the Earl Warren poster, the Weissman ad, and the killing of the President rather than the President's visit?

Mr. Senator.

No; I would say the subject at that time, when he was looking at the sign and taking pictures of it, and the newspaper ad, that this is where he really wanted to know the whys or why these things had to be out. He is trying to combine these two together, which I did hear him say, "This is the work John Birch Society or the Communist Party or maybe a combination of both.”

Mr. Hubert.

What is the work of those two; the death of the President?

Mr. Senator.

Oh, no, no, no.

Mr. Hubert.

The publication of these signs?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

He did not indicate what his impressions were as to who was behind the death of the President?

Mr. Senator.

No; he didn't indicate that.

Mr. Hubert.

Nor did he seem to associate the ads and the poster with the President's death?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know about that part.

Mr. Hubert.

But you do know that he was wondering why these two things, the poster and ad, should come out at the same time?

Mr. Senator.

Now, mind you, I don't know if they come out at the same time, because the billboard, I don't know if that thing was there a day or a week.

Mr. Hubert.

But he was associating the two of those together?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Or trying to find out if there was any connection between those two?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; he wanted to know why.

Mr. Hubert.

And it was the fact that the ad was published and the sign was posted that he attributed to the Communists or the Birch Society.

Mr. Senator.

Yes; and he couldn't understand why the Dallas Morning News would ever print such a thing like that, say that in their paper.

Mr. Hubert.

You see what I am trying to get at is whether he manifested in