(Testimony of Wilbyrn Waldon (Robert) Ii Litchfield)
Mr. Litchfield.
Right.
Mr. Hubert.
When did that firm up in your mind, because from what I gather it was not firmed in your mind where you had seen him, on the Sunday when you were playing poker, isn't that right?
Mr. Litchfield.
Correct. I wasn't positive then, no, where I had seen him.
Mr. Hubert.
When did you become positive that you had seen him at the Carousel?
Mr. Litchfield.
Well, I was thinking about it during the week, on Thursday or Friday, and it dawned on me that that looked like the fellow that I had seen in the Carousel.
There was another fellow up there that I had never seen before and made a beck of an impression on me he was about twice my size, a real flashy dresser, white on, white shirt and his suit was a very flashy type, and he had just gotten married, but he, himself, made a beck of an impression on me, the way he was dressed and his size, and this fellow that I had seen in the Carousel made a heck of an impression on me the way he was dressed---he was dressed sloppy--in a sloppy shirt and kind of a gray khaki-type pants. I thought, "What is this idiot doing up here?" You know, because it is known that the Carousel is a clip joint and you've got to be an idiot to go in there in the first place, or a tourist, one of the two, and I just ran--I guess you would just say that it came into my mind that that looked like the fellow I had seen. I was associating the sloppy dress with him because he was dressed sloppy on television and when you see it repeatedly and repeatedly--you remember it.
Mr. Hubert.
Tell us how you think the man might have been Oswald that you saw in the Carousel was dressed on the occasion you saw him, which was the last time you saw Ruby?
Mr. Litchfield.
He had on a white sweater and kind of a T-shirt-type sweater, and a pair of, I guess they were gray khakis or they might have been gabardine, there was no crease in them and they were real sloppy and his hair wasn't combed, you know.
Mr. Hubert.
You didn't talk to him?
Mr. Litchfield.
No, I didn't talk to anybody while I was there other than Jack and I did meet that photographer--I don't remember his name. Jack introduced' me, and I did meet that great big guy. He came back into the office he did once while I was in there with Jack and he had just gotten married to some girl from Galveston and they were celebrating their honeymoon and I was thinking, "You've got to be a nut to come to a place like this to celebrate a honeymoon."
Mr. Hubert.
When you came out of Jack's office, did you see this man that you think might be Oswald in there still ?
Mr. Litchfield.
When you come out of his office, you can't see nothing--you walk down the hall and turn left and then you are back in the club part of it--the Carousel.
Now, when I ca_me back in the club part, the man that I thought was Oswald had already seen Jack---I was the last one to see him--I don't think there were more than two or three people left in the club--this big heavy-set fellow and his wife were still there.
Mr. Hubert.
In other words, this man you thought was Oswald was waiting to see Jack?
Mr. Litchfield.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And he was ahead of you?
Mr. Litchfield.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And you had an opportunity to observe him then as the man who got to see Jack before you did?
Mr. LITCHFIELD, Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Was he there before you got there?
Mr. Litchfield.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And was sitting down at the table?
Mr. Litchfield.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Was he drinking something?
Mr. Litchfield.
I don't remember if he had something or not. He was in front of me and an I could see was his back at that time.
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