Mr. Litchfield.

the man giving it asked me, "Have you definitely seen him," and I said, "Yes," and it showed that I hadn't.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean he told you the results of the test?

Mr. Litchfield.

No, he didn't tell me the results of the test, but Donald did--he didn't tell me---he didn't come right out and say, "No," but it was obvious. They had me pick Oswald's picture out of a bunch of police photographs, and anybody on the street could pick that man's picture out. That doesn't mean I have seen him--I told them that--I said, "Heck, anybody walking can pick his picture out."

Mr. Hubert.

And you had observed to someone prior to the shooting of Oswald that you thought you had seen Oswald somewhere?

Mr. Litchfield.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

Who were the people that you were . that you observed that to?

Mr. Litchfield.

Let me understand your question--whom did I say this to?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Litchfield.

I mentioned it like I said, there at the poker game.

Mr. Hubert.

This was the same poker game that went on into Sunday the 24th?

Mr. Litchfield.

Was that the day that Oswald was killed?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Litchfield.

Yes--that would be it. From Saturday the 23d to Sunday the 24th--I made it then, and----

Mr. Hubert.

Did you make it after Oswald was shot at that same poker game?

Mr. Litchfield.

That's when I made it. We was watching it on television--the rerun of it.

Mr. Hubert.

I had understood you to say that you had said you thought you had seen Oswald somewhere, and that you made that statement prior to the time that Oswald was shot?

Mr. Litchfield.

I made it once but like I said, I don't remember who I made it to.

Mr. Hubert.

It was not at the poker game?

Mr. Litchfield.

No--the statement at the poker game we were watching it on television and it showed everything there and someone says, "I think I've seen that fellow," and I said, "Yes; I think I've seen him too." That was the second time I had said it--before when his picture came out and everything, I said, "I think I have seen him," but I don't remember where I was when I said it.

Mr. Hubert.

What time did your poker game begin?

Mr. Litchfield.

Oh, Saturday night about 9 or 9:30.

Mr. Hubert.

And went on until-----

Mr. Litchfield.

Into .Sunday and until about 6:30.

Mr. Hubert.

In the afternoon?

Mr. Litchfield.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

So that the first time you made the observation that you thought you had seen Oswald somewhere must have been before the poker game began?

Mr. Litchfield.

Yes--it was.

Mr. Hubert.

So that would be before 9 o'clock on Saturday?

Mr. Litchfield.

Yes---it was. It was right after the assassination--they were showing all the films and the capture of Oswald, etc., and when I was watching television, I don't remember where I was, I said, "I think I've seen him." And people sitting around me said, "He looks familiar," and I made the statement, "I think I have seen him."

Mr. Hubert.

Now, when Oswald was shot and you made the statement again that you had thought you had seen Oswald, did you say anything that would indicate that you had seen him, Oswald, at Ruby's place?

Mr. Litchfield.

No; I just said, "I think I've seen him too," I forgot who it was I said that to, but the guy said, "I think I have seen him or I think I know that guy," and I just said, "Yes; I think I have seen him, too."

Mr. Hubert.

Did it occur to you that--then that it might have been that you had seen him at Ruby's place?

Mr. Litchfield.

I started trying to remember everybody was sitting around and saying, "Where have you seen him?" Trying to think, and I thought about