Mr. Sorrels.

seemed to me like I talked to Chief Batchelor about that, also. I am not positive. But, anyway, I figured they would have a way of knowing who it was that was there, and so forth, at that time.

Mr. Hubert.

Is there anyway you could fix for us more definitely the dates of these three occurrences--your meeting with Wade at Love Field, your telephone conversation with Curry, and your interview with Wade?

Mr. Sorrels.

I think that I can on the one at Love Field, because, as I recall it, Miss Lynda Johnson was en route to Washington, D.C., and I went to Love Field to be there at the time they arrived in the event that they might need a car or something. I can establish that--February 16, 1964.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean you don't know it now, but you could establish it?

Mr. Sorrels.

No; I could establish it.

Mr. Hubert.

I wonder if you would undertake to establish that for us.

Mr. Sorrels.

Yes; I would.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you think there is no other collateral way to establish the dates of the other matters?

Mr. Sorrels.

I can--I think I can pretty well establish it. I will tell you why. At the time that I was in Wade's office, and during the course of the time that I talked to him, this officer Dean came into Mr. Wade's office and Mr. Wade asked me about if I was present when Ruby said such and such things--I don't recall what it was now--I think about that he had been thinking for 2 or 3 days about killing this fellow, or words to that effect, and I told him I was not. And it was right after that that Dean testified in that case. And I think I can establish about pretty close to what day it was. He either testified that day or the following day, as I recall it.

Mr. Hubert.

What interval of time would have elapsed between your meeting Wade at the airport and the date of the interview?

Mr. Sorrels.

Oh, I think that would have been probably--it is just hard to estimate the time, but it was before the trial of Ruby had ever even begun. It would just be a guess on my part, but I would say it was probably maybe 2 or 3 weeks, or maybe even more.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, can you fix for us--put it this way: Can you fix for us whether the Curry conversation was closer to the time you met Wade at Love Field than it was to the time you interviewed Wade, or Wade interviewed you?

Mr. Sorrels.

I just don't believe I can. It seems to me like it was shortly after I had seen Mr. Wade. I may be wrong about that. But I know the thought occurred to me, well, if I am going to be called down on that thing, I don't think they are going to be able to accept my testimony, because of the fact that Ruby wasn't warned. And so it was that time that I thought about maybe getting the names of these other two officers who could possibly remember the conversation, and they were standbys and were not the ones actually in the questioning.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember telling Mr. Griffin here that you would call the Dallas Police Department--I think that was in a telephone conversation he had with you--to find out the names of the people?

Mr. Sorrels.

It seems that I did mention to Mr. Griffin, when he was talking to me on the phone, that there were others present, and that I could possibly find out their names, and it seems to me that Mr. Griffin said something about, "Well, no; don't do that," or "It is not necessary."

Mr. Hubert.

Well, let me ask you this: Would that have been before you called Curry, or afterwards?

Mr. Sorrels.

Let me see now. I think that would have been before.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, perhaps it is this. Perhaps it was that when you had a personal conversation with Mr. Griffin in Dallas that you told him that you had made a call to ascertain the names of these people.

Mr. Sorrels.

It could have been.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you make such a call?

Mr. Sorrels.

Did I?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Sorrels.

I made a call. I am not sure it was to Chief Curry. It seems to me I remember talking to Chief Batchelor on that. Now, I may have mentioned