Mr. Hubert.

to quote it to me now, but you have the impression there is something in writing in some manual of standard operations, instructions, that requires that you warn a person of his constitutional rights?

Mr. Sorrels.

I just cannot answer that question, because I just can't recall if there is a specific instruction of that particular thing or not.
But I do know that if we do not warn them of their constitutional rights, that we are--we will be in serious trouble in the trial of a case because if the question is asked, "Did you warn this man of his constitutional rights?" we have to tell the truth, and if we say "No, it wasn't," we would be jeopardizing our case.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, at the time you called Curry, you had not spoken to Wade?

Mr. Sorrels.

Not about the actual interview with Ruby at that time.

Mr. Hubert.

At the time you talked to Curry, was that before or after you saw Wade at Love Field?

Mr. Sorrels.

I can't say for sure, but I think it was probably afterwards.

Mr. Hubert.

What I am trying to get at is what motivated your call to him.

Mr. Sorrels.

I probably didn't make myself plain.
What motivated my call to him was that I figured that if I was called to Mr. Wade's office to explain this thing to him, that the fact that I had not warned Ruby when I approached him to get this information--that I had not warned him of his constitutional rights, that I would not--it would not be good testimony. And my thought is that the two men who were the two uniformed officers there, who were just standing by and had nothing to do with the questions and so forth, who heard what was said, they might be able to testify to that effect.

Mr. Hubert.

So you wanted to get that information to someone in authority?

Mr. Sorrels.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

And the information was twofold--that you knew there was someone who could testify as to what Ruby had said, because you had heard Ruby say it in the presence of other people?

Mr. Sorrels.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

And, secondly, you were doubtful as to whether your testimony as such would be valuable?

Mr. Sorrels.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know why you conveyed that information to Curry instead of Wade?

Mr. Sorrels.

Because I did not know the names of the two police officers that were there. Two uniformed men.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, was it your thought, then, if you advised Curry he would get the names of the men, and then convey it to Wade? I am trying to get what your motivation was.

Mr. Sorrels.

Well, that is all I can recall as to the motivation. In other words, I don't know that I thought that he would convey the information to Wade or not. I just cannot recall whether I had that in mind or not. But I did have in mind that possibly these two fellows, these two uniformed police officers, might be able to testify as to what Ruby said there when I would not be able to do so, because of the fact I had not warned him.

Mr. Hubert.

And this conversation with Curry was in between the time you saw Wade at Love Field and the time you had the interview with him when he came back from Washington?

Mr. Sorrels.

As I recall it, it was. I won't be positive about that.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you told Wade, I think you said, the same thing, about your doubts as to your qualifications.

Mr. Sorrels.

I believe that I did, if I recall it correctly, because I think when I was talking to Wade in his office, that that was mentioned.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you make any memo of the conversation you had with Curry?

Mr. Sorrels.

No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you make any memo of the interview you had with Wade?

Mr. Sorrels.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What did Curry say to you when you told him this information?

Mr. Sorrels.

As I recall it, I think he said that he could possibly find out. It