Mr. Crafard.

No; he was in no position to. He had a large family.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you make inquiry as to how much it would cost?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you said that you knew that that was a bad road for hitchhikers.

Mr. Crafard.

At night, I said.

Mr. Hubert.

It is all right in the day?

Mr. Crafard.

Fairly decent road; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you make it that day into Kalkaska?

Mr. Crafard.

I went up to Harrison that day and spent a couple of hours with an aunt I have in Harrison, and then went to Kalkaska.

Mr. Hubert.

What is her name?

Mr. Crafard.

Jean Eaton.

Mr. Hunbert.

Is she married?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What is her married name?

Mr. Crafard.

Eaton.

Mr. Hubert.

I see. Do you know her husband's first name?

Mr. Crafard.

Ed.

Mr. Hubert.

Is he living with her so that it is Mrs. Ed Eaton?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Where does she live?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't know the name of the street she lives on. They get their mail through a post office box.

Mr. Hubert.

You spent a couple of hours there?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you hitchhiked there?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How far is Harrison from Kalkaska?

Mr. Crafard.

About 90, 95 miles, I think.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you get to Kalkaska that night?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't recall whether I went that night or whether I stayed with my aunt and uncle that night.

Mr. Hubert.

We are talking now about Tuesday, the 26th of November.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember whether you got there Tuesday or Wednesday?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember sleeping at your aunt's house?

Mr. Crafard.

I have spent on several occasions, I have spent the night with my aunt and uncle.

Mr. Hubert.

I mean on that occasion.

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember for sure whether I stayed with my aunt.

Mr. Hubert.

I thought you said for a couple of hours there, and I was wondering whether you had slept there that night. You said you visited a couple of hours.

Mr. Crafard.

I went up there, I got up there before the kids come home for lunch.
Mr. HUBERT, Did you stay 2 hours or more?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe I spent the rest of the day there.

Mr. Hubert.

And slept there?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe so. Then I went up to my sister's the next day.

Mr. Hubert.

Did anybody--did your aunt and uncle have a car?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; he was working.

Mr. Hubert.

You weren't able to get a ride?

Mr. Crafard.

No; not with them.

Mr. Hubert.

You had to hitchhike?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Hubet.

You didn't even at that point consider bus travel?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

So then you got to your sister's house on Wednesday, then?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

About what time of day?