Mr. Hubert.

Did you ask him of what?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't recall if I asked him about what or not. I think him and Senator were talking.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember what they were talking about?

Mr. Crafard.

Something about an ad, I think an ad, a sign or something like that. When we got out there, it was "Impeach Earl Warren" sign at the corner of the North Central Expressway.

Mr. Hubert.

And what?

Mr. Crafard.

North Central and Hall, I believe it is.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you describe this intersection that you think that you took this sign----

Mr. Crafard.

It was just like most of the expressway intersections are. Around--come around under this bridge under an overcrossing and a road into the side here, and another one comes square into it here over the other side of the bridge. It was a building set in here.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me ask you this: How do you know it was the North Expressway and Hall?

Mr. Crafard.

The sign on the corner.

Mr. Hubert.

You saw the sign that said that?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes. We parked right beside the sign.

Mr. Hubert.

And you have no questions about your memory on that? It was next to a sign saying North Expressway?

Mr. Crafard.

It was on the North Central Expressway. I believe it was the North Central and Hall.

Mr. Hubert.

You parked by the sign which designated both streets?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe yes; I believe that was the name of the streets. I am not sure of the side street, but I believe it was Hall.

Mr. Griffin.

You drove out of town from the Carousel Club. Did you drive north on the North Central Expressway?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't know which way. I don't even know exactly which way the North Central Expressway runs.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me ask you this: This overpass that was near the intersection, did you go under the overpass before you got to the sign?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now the sign, was that located facing traffic that comes into town or traffic that goes out of town?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was facing traffic coming into town; I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

And was there a place to park near that sign?

Mr. Crafard.

On a side street that I believe is Hall.

Mr. Griffin.

Could you pull off what you believe to be Hall Street, could you pull off the road at that point and drive right up next to the sign?

Mr. Crafard.

There was a curb up--you would have to go over the curb to do so, I believe. I think we parked along the curb here and got out and walked across this open, small open space to the building the sign was on.

Mr. Griffin.

How large was the sign?

Mr. Crafard.

It was I think about 3-foot long and about the same height, 3 or 4 foot.

Mr. Griffin.

And what kind of a standard or support was it on?

Mr. Crafard.

It was on a building.

Mr. Griffin.

It was actually plastered on a building?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

About how high up on the building was it?

Mr. Crafard.

I'd say about 5 or 6 foot.

Mr. Hubert.

How many pictures did you take?

Mr. Crafard.

I took three photographs.

Mr. Hubert.

Were those instantaneous print pictures?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; 10-second Polaroid.

Mr. Hubert.

After you had finished taking them, what happened?

Mr. Crafard.

We got back in the car and went back into town to one of those cares and had coffee.

Mr. Hubert.

What is the name of the cafe?