Mr. Crafard.

No; I have no idea, except that during the day when there was nobody else there he would more frequently use the front phone than he would the office phone. We'd been out there talking. We could all three he'd have the table space to work and everything, count his money out, figure out the papers, and everything.

Mr. Hubert.

You are unable to fix the time of that call. to his brother, is that right?

Mr. Crafard.

That is correct, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

When did he come back after having left at, roughly, between and 3:30?

Mr. Crafard.

He come back about, I believe, about 4:30 or 5 o'clock.

Mr. Hubert.

Is it fair to say that he was gone about an hour to an hour and a haft?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I would say so. He asked me if I wanted to go to his sister's with him. He made quite a point of it, and I told him I'd prefer to stay at the club.

Mr. Hubert.

What do you mean by making quite a point of it?

Mr. Crafard.

He asked me two or three times about it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did it strike you as odd?

Mr. Crafard.

No; it just struck me as if he kind of wanted me to go. He thought it wouldn't be--didn't think it would be very good for me to stay there at the club by myself.

Mr. Hubert.

Why not?

Mr. Crafard.

I have no idea.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you that he thought----

Mr. Crafard.

He said he thought it would be better for me to go with him than to stay at the club.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ask him why he had such thought?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I didn't. I didn't think about it.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you think of the nature of that remark to you?

Mr. Crafard.

It didn't have no effect on me whatsoever at the time.

Mr. Hubert.

You had stayed at the club alone before, hadn't you?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Didn't you think it rather odd that he would suggest in some way that it wouldn't be proper for you to stay at the club?

Mr. Crafard.

At that time it didn't strike me at all. I didn't even think about it. I was still pretty shook up, myself.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you been doing any work in the interval when he was gone?

Mr. Crafard.

No; not that I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he make any phone calls when he came back?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe he called his sister at that time. I'm not positive, but I believe he called her at that time and told her he'd be right over.

Mr. Hubert.

When did he leave after having returned?

Mr. Crafard.

He was only there for about 10 or 15, maybe 20 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he call his sister twice?

Mr. Crafard.

He called her then, I'm almost positive that he called her that time and told her he'd be right over.
I told him that I'd prefer to stay at the club because, well, I knew his sister was highly emotional from what little I had talked to her on the telephone a couple of times, she-called for Jack and she always seemed very nervous on the phone and everything.

Mr. Hubert.

As I understand you now, it is quite clear that he did call his sister Eva?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

When he Came back the second time?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I'm almost positive.

Mr. Hubert.

That is when he stayed about 10 minutes?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

He left about 4:30 or 5, right?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Having stayed there only 10 minutes, whatever time he did come?