Mr. Crafard.

He stayed only 10 or 15 minutes. He hadn't been there very long.

Mr. Hubert.

From the time that you first heard of the President's death until he left that second time to go to his sister's, had he called his sister once or twice?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe that was the second time he called her that day, I'm not positive.

Mr. Hubert.

So that the first call must have been through the first, during the first visit, mustn't it?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I believe so, because he only made the one phone call When he came back the last time.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, with relation to the call to his brother, is your memory fresh now as to whether that call was made during his first visit between 2:30 and 3 o'clock, 2:30 and 3:30, or on his second visit when he stayed 10 minutes?

Mr. Crafard.

That was made on the first visit, I'm almost positive of that. I can only recall of one phone call he made and that was to his sister when he come back the second time.

Mr. Hubert.

He was there only 10 minutes, he called her and he asked you several times?

Mr. Crafard.

He asked me two or three times to go with him and I told him I'd rather not because she was highly nervous and I didn't care to be around her. I hardly never----

Mr. Hubert.

What did he say to you about being worried about your staying at the club?

Mr. Crafard.

He just thought it would be better for me to be with somebody than to be by myself, I guess, because I was shook up, kind of shook up about what had happened.

Mr. Hubert.

How were you showing that? I mean, what manifestations.

Mr. Crafard.

I guess more or less a look in my face, or something.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he seem to indicate that he feared for your safety?

Mr. Crafard.

No; not that I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

But what you are telling us is that at the time you had no reaction whatsoever to that suggestion of his that it would be better for you not to stay at the club?

Mr. Crafard.

I had no reaction at all to it.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't know whether he meant your safety or your own personal feelings or really what he meant?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't ask him what he meant?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

So he just then openly allowed you to stay on?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Was Armstrong still there during that time?

Mr. Crafard.

No; Andy--I was alone at the club.

Mr. Hubert.

When did Andy leave?

Mr. Crafard.

Andy left just shortly after Jack had left the first time.

Mr. Hubert.

About what, 5 or 10 minutes after?

Mr. Crafard.

About maybe 10 or 15 minutes later. When Jack was there the second time before he, left, he give me a sign, he told me to make up a sign that said we'd be closed Friday and Saturday, put it downstairs about 6:30.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you do so?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you do it in pencil or pen?

Mr. Crafard.

I made it with pencil and put it downstairs.

Mr. Hubert.

Was that before or after he asked you to----

Mr. Crafard.

That was after he left the second time.

Mr. Hubert.

No; you misunderstood my question. Did he ask you to make that sign before or after he asked you to go to Eva's with him?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe that was afterwards, after the first stay there at the club.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he give you any instructions as to what to do?